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> When dying the floating chunks that were created are very fast to disappear. Als…o the iron chunks disappear very fast, so I think that the rate at which compounds are consumed from a chunk should be reduced.
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### Author:  [@LordLovat](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/LordLovat)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2020, 2:41pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-5-0-public-beta-godot-version/2617/7 "2020-05-09T14:41:26Z")
My first impressions (maybe I’ll edit this later):
**Good things**
1. The game is not blurred !!!; (_finally yes 🤩 🤩_)
2. I like the new Options menu;
3. I like the transitions editor to microbe and microbe to editor;
4. Some other minor graphics things that i find cool and i think were said here before.
**Some bad things / bugs:**
1. The pilus and the flagellum do not stick to the membrane;
2. The flagella does not seem to increase the speed;
3. When I added a nucleus my membrane looked strange
4. Organelles and compunds walk at the speed of sound when we die
5. The game crashed when I entered the editor or when I exited it;
6. The opening cutscene and Revolutionary Games appear to be zoomed when the game starts;
7. Some other minor bad graphics things that probably were said here.
Here is an image of 1 and 3 problems
> **Summary**
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> I dont have the image because when i take a scrennshot it just shows this, ALWAYS
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I know its beta, not a complete version, but i also know that to have a complete version I have to show the problems
**Stay tuned! I can edit this later!**
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### Author:  [@Rathalos](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/Rathalos)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2020, 2:44pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-5-0-public-beta-godot-version/2617/8 "2020-05-09T14:44:18Z")
Yes, most of those do seem correct.
Sorry, didn’t see those were the same issues.
On that last one: it looked like actual compound clouds flying away from the dead cell, not particle/organelles.
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### Author:  [@hhyyrylainen](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/hhyyrylainen)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2020, 2:46pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-5-0-public-beta-godot-version/2617/9 "2020-05-09T14:46:31Z")
> [@LordLovat](#):
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> The game crashed when I entered the editor or when I exited it;
Could you provide the logs from the launcher. Or by running with command prompt / terminal.
> [@Rathalos](#):
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> On that last one: it looked like actual compound clouds flying away from the dead cell, not particle/organelles.
Are you perhaps mistaking that for the new agents. The agents are now particle effects that fly off fast, but look like a cloud.
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### Author:  [@Rathalos](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/Rathalos)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2020, 3:01pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-5-0-public-beta-godot-version/2617/10 "2020-05-09T15:01:58Z")
> [@hhyyrylainen](#):
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> Are you perhaps mistaking that for the new agents. The agents are now particle effects that fly off fast, but look like a cloud.
Oh, that’s quite likely actually, I think they were light blue.
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### Author:  [@hhyyrylainen](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/hhyyrylainen)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2020, 3:03pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-5-0-public-beta-godot-version/2617/11 "2020-05-09T15:03:19Z")
Here is me shooting an agent:
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### Author:  [@Rathalos](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/Rathalos)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2020, 3:05pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-5-0-public-beta-godot-version/2617/12 "2020-05-09T15:05:39Z")
Yes, that was it, I guess I should have tried using the OxyToxy myself first.
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### Author:  [@blackjacksike](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/blackjacksike)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2020, 4:05pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-5-0-public-beta-godot-version/2617/13 "2020-05-09T16:05:45Z")
I just tested the game. Issues:
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You can’t change the resolution in the option menu.
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The nucleus is white instead of being purple
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If you can use iron to produce ATP, you require both glucose AND iron to produce ATP. If you only have glucose, when you’re moving, the ATP is decreasing.
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The membranes need more specialized characteristics than its current properties. You see, every membrane except Normal has an -0.1 absorption rate. Silica has all attributes despite its -0.4 mobility, which is insane yet reasonable. There need to be **diverse** reasons to evolve each one.
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The membranes cost should be reduced to 45 MP, which would allow the player to spend MPs on something else than a thylakoid.
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All patches are always shown to be at 240-300 m under sea level.
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The environmental properties and compounds shown in the game differ from the ones shown in the editor. In the game, everything is at 0%, but the temperature is always 55 Celsius and the pressure is always at 200 kPa.
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The units are not always properly assigned. Some environmental compounds are in % and some others are in % ppm. You can’t use two units for the same variable. Also, in the editor, the luminosity is displayed in Lux whereas it’s shown in % in the game.
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In the editor, some patches show that there is no hydrogen sulfide, yet it is present when in the game.
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Photosynthesis doesn’t seem to work. I was playing in the Estuary and decided to stop moving. The glucose level never increased. It might be related to the environmental issues mentioned above.
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Glucose seems to be too rare. Ammonia and phosphates are difficult to find as well.
General/vague issues:
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The game relies too much on specific strategies to beat it. If our reality had been based on the game’s logic, nearly all species would be extinct. There aren’t only three evolutions that allow a species to survive and thrive. There should be more diversity in the strategies used to beat the game.
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Compounds are becoming exponentially rarer. It would all be fine if you wanted most species to die, yet it’s difficult for the player to survive, especially in the late game. In biology, there is a concept of how energy and matter circulate through organisms. The matter is always recycled; there should be no loss of matter anywhere while energy is reduced each time it is consumed by a higher organism. That’s why it doesn’t make sense to reduce the compounds’ quantity each time the player evolves. That’s why most species in our reality are still alive and not extinct. I know it’s to prevent the player to buy all organelles, but still. You should find another way to prevent organelle gluttony instead of the current method.
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It’s too difficult to evolve into a more advanced lifeform. The nucleus has too many downgrades to be chosen as an evolution (e.g. 100 MP, too much osmoregulation cost, etc.). It’s like the game encourages the players not to evolve. If our world had been based on this logic, none of us would exist and try to make this game. The game should encourage the player to evolve the nucleus, just not in the early game.
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### Author:  [@hhyyrylainen](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/hhyyrylainen)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2020, 4:21pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-5-0-public-beta-godot-version/2617/14 "2020-05-09T16:21:49Z")
> [@blackjacksike](#):
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> You can’t change the resolution in the option menu.
I looked into this before and Godot has decided that fullscreen resolutions are an artifact of the past and won’t be supported. We can add an option to render the game at a smaller scale size to improve performance:
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> Godot has done away with specific fullscreen resolutions. So right now the game …resolution is either:
> \- The window size
> \- Desktop resolution
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> Could be fixed with either like a render scale option or a render size option that makes the viewport that Godot renders to smaller.
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> Edit: for mac this is a very important feature due to retina screens otherwise eating up an absolute ton of rendering power
> [@blackjacksike](#):
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> The nucleus is white instead of being purple
Not a bug. Same as in 0.4.3.1. This happened on the remaking of the nucleus model.
> [@blackjacksike](#):
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> All patches are always shown to be at 240-300 m under sea level.
Known bug:
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> Just noticed that the oxygen and other environmental properties are just at 0 in… the microbe stage GUI.
> [@blackjacksike](#):
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> In the editor, some patches show that there is no hydrogen sulfide, yet it is present when in the game.
This needs investigating.
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> https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-5-0-public-beta-godot-version…/2617/13?u=hhyyrylainen
> [@blackjacksike](#):
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> Photosynthesis doesn’t seem to work. I was playing in the Estuary and decided to stop moving. The glucose level never increased. It might be related to the environmental issues mentioned above.
Opened an issue:
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> https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-5-0-public-beta-godot-version…/2617/13?u=hhyyrylainen
> [@blackjacksike](#):
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> Glucose seems to be too rare. Ammonia and phosphates are difficult to find as well.
Are you sure you didn’t run into the case of glucose being reduced each time you go to the editor? It’s intentional that eventually you can’t rely on glucose in the environment.
> [@blackjacksike](#):
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> The game relies too much on specific strategies to beat it. If our reality had been based on the game’s logic, nearly all species would be extinct. There aren’t only three evolutions that allow a species to survive and thrive. There should be more diversity in the strategies used to beat the game.
Balancing for this release is not done yet. I hope that our game designers will get on that before the full release, @Buckly, @GlassDev .
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### Author:  [@blackjacksike](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/blackjacksike)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2020, 4:27pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-5-0-public-beta-godot-version/2617/15 "2020-05-09T16:27:54Z")
> [@hhyyrylainen](#):
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> I hope that our game designers will get on that before the full release
I think it will take some more releases to work on balancing.
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### Author:  [@Buckly](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/Buckly)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2020, 4:37pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-5-0-public-beta-godot-version/2617/16 "2020-05-09T16:37:40Z")
What are the strategies you have found unsustainable? What are the ones you can manage?
I have not yet extensively tested this release in it’s current state but in 0.4.3.1 I was able to thrive with a great variety of strategies, with the only real limit being the selection of organelles and the careful regulation of my cell’s size. So there is potentially something wrong if you cannot manage more strategies.
I need all the information I can get about any problems with game balance in order to quickly find the root of the issues and rebalance them.
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### Author:  [@blackjacksike](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/blackjacksike)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2020, 4:49pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-5-0-public-beta-godot-version/2617/17 "2020-05-09T16:49:47Z")
Maybe this is just because I found that my strategy didn’t work in the late game. My strategy was this:
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Gather glucose as well as ammonia and phosphate to reproduce.
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If the compound bars aren’t filled enough, fill them until either they are complete or that you can’t find any of them.
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Reproduce, move to next patch (Pangonian Sea Floor I think), and evolve rusticyanin and cytoplasm.
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Repeat Step 1 to 3 with the exception that mutations can be different depending on the conditions. Always move to the patch upward until you reach Estuary.
That was the strategy I used. It seemed to work at the beginning, but it was harder in the late game because photosynthesis didn’t work and glucose was becoming increasingly rare. My problems might also have been caused by a membrane upgrade (Silica), which turned out to be a bad choice. I then move to double-membrane instead.
As for the strategy issue, I think it’s because of my experience in one of the earlier versions of the game, so I can’t blame the current version for that. Sorry if I sounded harsh.
EDIT: Weird, I had two bugs on the forum.
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500 Internal Server Error
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Body too similar to what I recently posted while it didn’t seem to post.
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### Author:  [@LordLovat](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/LordLovat)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2020, 4:54pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-5-0-public-beta-godot-version/2617/20 "2020-05-09T16:54:50Z")
> **Summary**
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> weird bug where my membrane is invisible and i create glucose clouds in my way 🤔
> I cant make the menu doesnt appear for some reason 😐
> I’m a god for themCELLves
> **Summary**
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> zoomed intro i talked before
And the crash I said didnt happen again, _until now_
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### Author:  [@hhyyrylainen](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/hhyyrylainen)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2020, 4:54pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-5-0-public-beta-godot-version/2617/21 "2020-05-09T16:54:53Z")
> [@blackjacksike](#):
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> - 500 Internal Server Error
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> - Body too similar to what I recently posted while it didn’t seem to post.
I just installed a minor discourse update. They say that they are safe to do at anytime with their updater that doesn’t cause any downtime for the small updates.
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### Author:  [@Buckly](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/Buckly)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2020, 5:00pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-5-0-public-beta-godot-version/2617/22 "2020-05-09T17:00:45Z")
Is that the only strategy you have tried? It’s bad practice to rely on naturally occuring glucose as that really only exists to supply new cells with food before they evolve new ways to acquire it. It’s reduced by 80% each generation so unless you want to become a predator, you will have to adapt to consuming alternative compounds or generate the glucose yourself.
Hhyyrylainen has recently informed me that the compound absorption rates of membranes is currently unimplemented so the only effect your membranes had on you was the speed, resistances, and osmoregulation costs.
Even though glucose is supposed to decrease gradually overtime, it is possible that the current generation rates of compounds are profoundly low, atleast judging from the brief testing I have performed while this version was not released. I’ll look into it regardless, thank you for your feedback.
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