# 0.5.3.1 Patch Early Testing

**URL:** https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-5-3-1-patch-early-testing/3332
**Category:** Meta
**Created:** [February 17, 2021, 5:38pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-5-3-1-patch-early-testing/3332 "2021-02-17T17:38:29Z")
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### Author: ![hhyyrylainen](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/hhyyrylainen/32/32_2.png) [@hhyyrylainen](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/hhyyrylainen)
#### Post date: [February 17, 2021, 5:38pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-5-3-1-patch-early-testing/3332/1 "2021-02-17T17:38:30Z")

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Here’s the 0.5.3.1 patch a couple of days early for some last minute testing against critical bugs.

We are making this release as binding agents is stuck / not being worked on currently, and we wanted to release some important fixes like the save errors should be gone now (please report if you still get errors when saving), and the AI, which has been broken since 0.5.0, can now finally act as a predator again.

Here are the downloads:  
Linux: [https://dev.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/api/v1/download/8854](https://dev.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/api/v1/download/8854)  
SHA3: 82b770789877d84d0eb2b01df42143773f6d009d0892732a61e0c183f038ee05

Windows: [https://dev.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/api/v1/download/8856](https://dev.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/api/v1/download/8856)  
SHA3: 57d3d304d02ed96c616bdb575fe3809cf119e9c5e2e60a563d0df7d89bd5c8ce

Windows (32 bit): [https://dev.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/api/v1/download/8857](https://dev.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/api/v1/download/8857)  
SHA3: d15df78b360f9bc71dc1a7352bee06933d8402fc032161370b75ef7d840e17a5

Mac: [https://dev.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/api/v1/download/8855](https://dev.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/api/v1/download/8855)  
SHA3: 01b59c3351bd18d9634cce1d48bef4797a4ff286725104e09327a44de5b9a040

Note that this version might let you load older saves (which are incompatible) but the 0.5.3.1 release version won’t. This is caused by how the old version number check is done.

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### Author: ![hhyyrylainen](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/hhyyrylainen/32/32_2.png) [@hhyyrylainen](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/hhyyrylainen)
#### Post date: [February 17, 2021, 5:46pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-5-3-1-patch-early-testing/3332/2 "2021-02-17T17:46:41Z")

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### Author: ![DeepSix](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/deepsix/32/15150_2.png) [@DeepSix](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/DeepSix)
#### Post date: [February 18, 2021, 4:26pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-5-3-1-patch-early-testing/3332/3 "2021-02-18T16:26:45Z")

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It’s nice that the predation bug was fixed, I died three times in a row.  
The cells usually attack me in a group.

 ![2021-02-18_13.22.12.8986](https://thrivecommunity-uploads.b-cdn.net/original/2X/f/f43401520037bda45ec9228a9cd1f616f5e13179.jpeg)

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### Author: ![fralegend015](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/fralegend015/32/11835_2.png) [@fralegend015](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/fralegend015)
#### Post date: [February 18, 2021, 5:45pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-5-3-1-patch-early-testing/3332/4 "2021-02-18T17:45:34Z")

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The AI works, but it doesn’t engulf the organelles of the cells it kills(leaving giant clusters of organelles), making scavenger the new meta. Was this intended or not?

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### Author: ![hhyyrylainen](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/hhyyrylainen/32/32_2.png) [@hhyyrylainen](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/hhyyrylainen)
#### Post date: [February 18, 2021, 6:31pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-5-3-1-patch-early-testing/3332/5 "2021-02-18T18:31:55Z")

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A lot of the things the AI does are not intended as the core logic hasn’t been updated in years, so it doesn’t know of new features, and isn’t very good at targeting sensible chunks.

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### Author: ![Untrustedlife](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/untrustedlife/32/3855_2.png) [@Untrustedlife](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/Untrustedlife)
#### Post date: [February 18, 2021, 8:16pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-5-3-1-patch-early-testing/3332/6 "2021-02-18T20:16:32Z")

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it depends on how aggressive they are, if they are super aggressive they may choose to just kill things instead of engulfing the chunks. In my game, i saw them engulfing after kills plenty.

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### Author: ![Untrustedlife](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/untrustedlife/32/3855_2.png) [@Untrustedlife](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/Untrustedlife)
#### Post date: [February 18, 2021, 8:17pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-5-3-1-patch-early-testing/3332/7 "2021-02-18T20:17:47Z")

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Yeah they do an opportunism check after kills to see if they want to eat the chunks after a kill, so it is indeed intended, a highly aggressive species with low opportunisticness will just go on killing sprees and not eat the chunks sometimes because they are just super bloodthirsty 😛 .

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### Author: ![blackjacksike](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/blackjacksike/32/7094_2.png) [@blackjacksike](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/blackjacksike)
#### Post date: [February 18, 2021, 10:01pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-5-3-1-patch-early-testing/3332/8 "2021-02-18T22:01:47Z")

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That is some elaborate attack plan for a

> **Light NSFW word**
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> _gang bang_

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### Author: ![blackjacksike](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/blackjacksike/32/7094_2.png) [@blackjacksike](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/blackjacksike)
#### Post date: [February 18, 2021, 10:04pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-5-3-1-patch-early-testing/3332/9 "2021-02-18T22:04:46Z")

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> [@Untrustedlife](#):
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> a highly aggressive species with low opportunisticness will just go on killing sprees and not eat the chunks sometimes because they are just super bloodthirsty

Is there existence of such a single cell species in LAWK on Earth?

🩸

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### Author: ![Untrustedlife](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/untrustedlife/32/3855_2.png) [@Untrustedlife](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/Untrustedlife)
#### Post date: [February 18, 2021, 11:17pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-5-3-1-patch-early-testing/3332/10 "2021-02-18T23:17:54Z")

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Its a very common behavior actually [Surplus killing - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surplus_killing#:~:text=Some%20of%20the%20animals%20which,coyotes%2C%20lynxes%2C%20minks%2C%20raccoons)

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### Author: ![Untrustedlife](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/untrustedlife/32/3855_2.png) [@Untrustedlife](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/Untrustedlife)
#### Post date: [February 18, 2021, 11:19pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-5-3-1-patch-early-testing/3332/11 "2021-02-18T23:19:16Z")

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a cougar did this… [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/Multiple\_sheep\_kill.jpg](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/Multiple_sheep_kill.jpg)

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### Author: ![blackjacksike](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/blackjacksike/32/7094_2.png) [@blackjacksike](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/blackjacksike)
#### Post date: [February 19, 2021, 9:27pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-5-3-1-patch-early-testing/3332/12 "2021-02-19T21:27:04Z")

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It still doesn’t give so many single celled organisms that do this as examples. They mentioned “zooplankton”, but they never specified which ones. They also haven’t spoken of bacteria or prokaryotes.

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### Author: ![Untrustedlife](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/untrustedlife/32/3855_2.png) [@Untrustedlife](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/Untrustedlife)
#### Post date: [February 22, 2021, 5:50pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-5-3-1-patch-early-testing/3332/13 "2021-02-22T17:50:12Z")

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There is no reason to assume that single celled organisms who are predators are any less likely to do surplus killing as non single celled predators. And they do, for example fungi or bacteria that emit antibacterial substances do alot of surplus killing, they don’t eat what they kill in that situation.

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### Author: ![VladOS](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/v/c37758/32.png) [@VladOS](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/VladOS)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2021, 2:04am UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-5-3-1-patch-early-testing/3332/14 "2021-03-16T02:04:11Z")

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I’m sorry, but what the fudge is this?(it was lined up vertically in the editor. bottom - metabolosomes, middle - cytioplasm, up - spike). Not sure if this is this version’s problem. Also the hostile copies of it were perfectly fine

 ![image](https://thrivecommunity-uploads.b-cdn.net/original/2X/3/3f614e4408f43499a3af9577456b457768ec15e8.jpeg)

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### Author: ![Deathpacitoast](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/deathpacitoast/32/6871_2.png) [@Deathpacitoast](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/Deathpacitoast)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2021, 2:59am UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-5-3-1-patch-early-testing/3332/16 "2021-03-16T02:59:50Z")

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What you’ve described is an issue where peripheral organelles like pili and flagella get mucked up when placed in the “core” of a cell. It’s an issue that the Devs have been aware of for a while.

> <https://github.com/Revolutionary-Games/Thrive/issues/1297>
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> https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/general-0-5-0-feedback/2645/5?u=hhyyrylainen

I was able to replicate your problem in the freebuild editor and mess around with it seems the cell core re-centers itself in the pilus organelle which always results it a messed up pilus/flagella no matter where you place the pilus (if your cell is 3 hexes big.)

 ![image](https://thrivecommunity-uploads.b-cdn.net/original/2X/6/6f2013e8234dfca2d4ddef6acb234372ee8ce912.jpeg)  
 ![image](https://thrivecommunity-uploads.b-cdn.net/original/2X/3/37a3ec54c274ae41b093a6a0b1214a2ea8465213.jpeg)  
Looks like there isn’t a fix coming any time soon so my best advice would be to just make your cell 1 hex longer, the pilus will straighten itself out.

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### Author: ![hhyyrylainen](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/hhyyrylainen/32/32_2.png) [@hhyyrylainen](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/hhyyrylainen)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2021, 6:34am UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-5-3-1-patch-early-testing/3332/17 "2021-03-16T06:34:19Z")

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That’s the issue that the external organelles miscalculate positions at 0, 0, but that doesn’t look to be the position the pilus is in. This is the right issue:

> <https://github.com/Revolutionary-Games/Thrive/issues/1500>
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> even when not placed at origin. Might be related to loading a save or reproduction progress.

Anyway, I’ll close this thread as 0.5.3.1 proper has been released and any discussion related to it should either be in #bug-reports or #current-game

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### Author: ![hhyyrylainen](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/hhyyrylainen/32/32_2.png) [@hhyyrylainen](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/hhyyrylainen)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2021, 6:34am UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-5-3-1-patch-early-testing/3332/18 "2021-03-16T06:34:38Z")

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