0.7.1 General Feedback Thread

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@Rathalos

This dovetails into another point of weirdness: The foodchain screen appears to show newly appeared species, and species that have already mutated (as they will appear after you exit the editor) and your own species, before any modifications you make in the editor (it does not get updated). Technically, this isn’t accurate to the situation before or after the editor session. This situation is only used to make this display, and is not used for any actual calculations on species numbers, right?

Edit:
Hmmmm no, it does appear like you are using next generation AI cells and last-generation player cells to calculate current populations:

When auto-evo is run before entering the editor, it will store various information for referencing later. This includes obviously the population numbers which are needed to update the game state, but also all miche information is saved. So barring any bugs the food chains and population numbers are exactly what was just calculated and applied to the game world when entering the microbe editor.

@Rathalos

Seems like I wasn’t given an initial supply of iron initially, but I was after I died.

You don’t get free resources for exiting editor (other than the free glucose cloud if enabled in difficulty options).

@Hapchazzard

For some reason, I often see prokaryotes completely disappear from shallow-water patches and get replaced by eukaryotes. This is honestly probably my biggest gripe with the current build - it’s quite immersion-breaking, and atmospherically one of the things that makes the world feel alive to me is seeing those little swarms of prokaryotes swimming around the comparatively huge eukaryotes.

This is an interesting piece of feedback, because most of the time people complain about there being way too few eukaryotes or other big cells.

Also welcome back.

@Hapchazzard

(and yes, I’m aware that it can be lower, but I’ve only ever seen it be 5 turns) is brutal for what is such a fundamentally important organelle to eukaryotes. Furthermore, since in practice it usually takes even longer for them to develop, what I usually see is eukaryotes radiating and becoming well-diversified by the time

Due to the missing starting oxygen maybe it is different now but it used to be the case that by the time you got a nucleus, you easily had used metabolosomes long enough to basically almost instantly unlock the mitochondria.

@Hapchazzard

endosymbiosis events

AI doesn’t know how to do that, so I think it is pretty clear right now when it has happened as the player needs to intentionally trigger it. But yes it would be nice to add it to the event timeline, though I’m not too optimistic as that’s a really neglected feature with no one wanting to work on it for the last couple of years.

@Hapchazzard

if the nucleus could be colored a-la the membrane; even better if you could do aesthetic modifications like the shape of the golgi apparatus/surface texture, etc. Would go a massive way to making eukaryotes more visually distinct from each other.

Is it always just white? Unless there’s a new bug the nucleus should take on the colour of the cell it is in.

@Hapchazzard

EDIT: Forgot this one, but I’m regularly seeing several eukaryotic lineages develop in parallel. While this should not be outright impossible, it should really be rare especially if LAWK is turned on. I was honestly a bit shocked when I noticed that there were, by my count, 5 different independent eukaryote lineages in my latest game, and that I’m the only extant genus of my own lineage…

You must be very lucky then as (well at least before 0.7.1) it was super rare to see even a single AI evolved species with the nucleus…