# 0.7.1 Release Candidate Testing
**URL:** https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-7-1-release-candidate-testing/7810
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**Created:** [October 18, 2024, 11:58am UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-7-1-release-candidate-testing/7810 "2024-10-18T11:58:22Z")
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### Author:  [@hhyyrylainen](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/hhyyrylainen)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2024, 11:58am UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-7-1-release-candidate-testing/7810/1 "2024-10-18T11:58:22Z")
The time to test 0.7.1 is here! This release was almost called 0.8.0 as most of the 0.7.x roadmap is now complete, but a few items are left. The most immediate noticeable thing in this release is that the world will start off without oxygen and only get oxygen after photosynthesis is evolved. That has required various tweaks all over the game to keep things working nicely with the new starting conditions. There’s also a ton of the usual small changes, features and bug fixes. There’s also some new microbe stage visual effects that can be enabled in the options menu. If people like these, they may become default options in the future.
This beta version is available through the launcher (after selecting the option to show beta versions) or through Steam and itch on the beta channels.
Please provide any feedback you have about this new upcoming release, we are especially interested in any major game breaking bugs that we have not found yet.
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### Author:  [@hhyyrylainen](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/hhyyrylainen)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2024, 11:59am UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-7-1-release-candidate-testing/7810/2 "2024-10-18T11:59:12Z")
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### Author:  [@Rathalos](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/Rathalos)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2024, 3:18pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-7-1-release-candidate-testing/7810/3 "2024-10-18T15:18:24Z")
Happy to see so much progress!
After a few generations, the report screen broke. This happened right after I reproduced.
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The editor as well:
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Pressing Confirm also did not let me continue.
Reloading from the last autosave and repeating the same actions did not reproduce the problem, but loading the save made in this screen does:
> **[Download Data package from October 18th.](https://filetransfer.io/data-package/by1oEmPL#link)**
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> Size of the data package: 852.18 kB. Free transfer of up to 6 GB of photos, videos and documents. Send large files via email or a link to share. No registration, no ads, just simple file sharing!
Some other observations so far:
Does the editor grid look better, or is that just me?
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The phosphate chunks are green. I am not exactly sure what phosphate salt you had in mind. But no doubt from a gameplay perspective, picking something purple would be more obvious.
Bloom effect is perhaps a bit much. Bright clouds on dark backgrounds (abyssopelagic) hurt my eyes. I think the washed out effect is nice, but a bit too bright. These glowing clouds are making me feel like bioluminescence has already been implemented!
> **Lighting effects on the 3d membranes are actually gorgeous!**
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### Author:  [@aah31415](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/aah31415)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2024, 4:35pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-7-1-release-candidate-testing/7810/4 "2024-10-18T16:35:49Z")
I noticed that after I engulfed a bunch of microbes and then released them, one of them apparently became undamagable and also didn’t respond to anything.
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### Author:  [@C009](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/C009)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2024, 6:34pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-7-1-release-candidate-testing/7810/5 "2024-10-18T18:34:32Z")
Logs, please next time
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### Author:  [@Rathalos](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/Rathalos)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2024, 6:48pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-7-1-release-candidate-testing/7810/6 "2024-10-18T18:48:21Z")
Will do!
Actually now also encountering a problem with not getting any starting compounds when respawning after death:
> **[Download Data package from October 18th.](https://filetransfer.io/data-package/8N5DzJrz#link)**
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Another observation: Flagella modification seems to have a very wide range of energy usage, with a fairly minor effect on speed. At least on larger cells.
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### Author:  [@aah31415](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/aah31415)
#### Post date: [October 19, 2024, 9:55am UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-7-1-release-candidate-testing/7810/7 "2024-10-19T09:55:29Z")
I will post here a save with such an immortal microbe
> **[Download Data package from October 19th.](https://filetransfer.io/data-package/oQFuR6Cv#link)**
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### Author:  [@C009](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/C009)
#### Post date: [October 19, 2024, 11:59am UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-7-1-release-candidate-testing/7810/8 "2024-10-19T11:59:16Z")
Logs are empty kinda sad.
> [@aah31415](#):
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> I will post here a save with such an immortal microbe
We’re aware of this bug, there is probably some problem when engulfing (not when ejecting), at least imo.
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### Author:  [@Rathalos](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/Rathalos)
#### Post date: [October 19, 2024, 7:08pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-7-1-release-candidate-testing/7810/9 "2024-10-19T19:08:43Z")
Sorry, what? Just checked from the file sharing site again, and the log I posted is definitely not empty. That must be a problem on your end.
Unless you just meant the problem is not visible from the log, in which case, please be more clear in the future.
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### Author:  [@voxelbugged](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/voxelbugged)
#### Post date: [October 20, 2024, 7:48am UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-7-1-release-candidate-testing/7810/10 "2024-10-20T07:48:16Z")
I noticed that the photosynthesis values are way too low compared to 0.7.0, making the entire playstyle unviable, even with high CO2 levels like 12.5%:
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Additionally, chloroplasts are vastly less efficient than thylakoids, which definitely shouldn’t be the case.
I have experienced this issue both in freebuild and in a normal game, and it seems to be a constant issue which happens in all patches.
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### Author:  [@C009](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/C009)
#### Post date: [October 20, 2024, 9:29am UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-7-1-release-candidate-testing/7810/11 "2024-10-20T09:29:17Z")
Yeah I meant there was nothing quite useful, sorry.
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### Author:  [@voxelbugged](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/voxelbugged)
#### Post date: [October 20, 2024, 11:04am UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-7-1-release-candidate-testing/7810/12 "2024-10-20T11:04:07Z")
> **Previous reply (outdated)**
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> I can confirm the part about flagella. The increased speed from having a longer flagellum is rather negligible compared to the extra ATP needed to sustain it - this makes the shortest flagellum length possible the clear optimal choice in all situations, which probably shouldn’t be the case.
> This also makes flagella quite unbalanced in general, since super short flagella need way less ATP while still providing a speed boost comparable to unmodified ones.
> The effect flagellum length has on speed definitely needs to be way more pronounced than it is currently.
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> (Although, now that I think about it, I’m not sure if the speed value displayed in the editor is fully accurate, so the problem might not be present in-game and everything I said here may just be a consequence of incorrect displayed values - in which case this is a different issue entirely.)
After some more testing, it seems to me like the second option (the speed displayed being incorrect) is the issue here, so the first half of my previous reply can safely be ignored.
I made the same cell, one with short flagella and one with long flagella:
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The speed difference displayed in the editor is very small (19.1 vs 19.4), however the actual speed difference in-game appears to be way more apparent, with the long flagella cell being around 2x faster than the short flagella cell, which is definitely not correctly reflected in the displayed statistics.
Related to [Rework editor speed display to use actual physics simulation · Issue #2095 · Revolutionary-Games/Thrive · GitHub](https://github.com/Revolutionary-Games/Thrive/issues/2095).
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### Author:  [@hhyyrylainen](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/hhyyrylainen)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2024, 10:20am UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-7-1-release-candidate-testing/7810/13 "2024-10-22T10:20:57Z")
Everyone sure was busy totally breaking the game while I was away for the weekend…
I’ll try to reply to everything now.
> [@Rathalos](#):
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> After a few generations, the report screen broke. This happened right after I reproduced.
This is with 99% certainty the old bug where the Godot Engine just randomly starts failing to load scenes correctly. Open issues about this:
- [Godot scene loading with NodePaths seemingly fails randomly after some time · Issue #5209 · Revolutionary-Games/Thrive · GitHub](https://github.com/Revolutionary-Games/Thrive/issues/5209)
- [Editor screen fails to load anything randomly · Issue #5075 · Revolutionary-Games/Thrive · GitHub](https://github.com/Revolutionary-Games/Thrive/issues/5075)
> [@Rathalos](#):
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> The editor as well:
Yeah, this is what happens. The scene is not correctly loaded so the variables our C# code use are messed up and it runs into a serious error after only running part of the editor initialization logic. Godot 4 no longer allows crashing the entire game when things go very wrong. So the end result is this half loaded editor screen.
> [@Rathalos](#):
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> but loading the save made in this screen does:
So you made a save after the broken screen happened? I think I see that in the preview screenshot. Loading that save I get an error. So that’s why loading it leads back to the broken state (I see that the patch that is shown in the editor is null even though that variable should never be null, likely due to the broken state being saved). I don’t think it is worth it to try to fix this as the root problem is the broken scene load which allows the game in the first place to get into a totally broken state.
> [@Rathalos](#):
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> Does the editor grid look better, or is that just me?
I don’t recall any changes related to that…
> [@aah31415](#):
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> I noticed that after I engulfed a bunch of microbes and then released them, one of them apparently became undamagable and also didn’t respond to anything.
Since this initial report a workaround was written:
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> \*\*Brief Description of What This PR Does\*\*
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> \*\*Related Issues\*\*
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> https:/…/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-7-1-release-candidate-testing/7810/4?u=c009
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> \*\*Progress Checklist\*\*
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> \- \[\] PR author has checked that this PR works as intended and doesn't
> break existing features:
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> \- \[\] Initial code review passed (this and further items should not be checked by the PR author)
> \- \[\] Functionality is confirmed working by another person (see above checklist link)
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> Before merging all CI jobs should finish on this PR without errors, if
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> the PR author. Merging must follow our
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I call it a workaround as this doesn’t really explain why it happens, and I think if we find the root cause of the bug then it should be fixed in a much cleaner way by just fixing the ejection logic to work fine without needing to delay it by one frame.
> [@Rathalos](#):
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> Actually now also encountering a problem with not getting any starting compounds when respawning after death:
I realized based on this and other reports that now with the default patch no longer having any oxygen, the initial compounds calculation will not give any glucose to oxygen breathers. And sure enough your save shows that. I’ve already made the fix for that which will be in the release. With my fix in place doing any change in the editor recalculates the initial compounds in your save and after that the cell spawns with glucose.
> [@Rathalos](#):
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> Another observation: Flagella modification seems to have a very wide range of energy usage, with a fairly minor effect on speed. At least on larger cells.
Once big, a single flagellum has pretty minimal impact on speed in general.
> [@Rathalos](#):
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> Sorry, what? Just checked from the file sharing site again, and the log I posted is definitely not empty. That must be a problem on your end.
I can confirm the logs aren’t empty, but they don’t have any interesting errors that would be relevant.
> [@voxelbugged](#):
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> I noticed that the photosynthesis values are way too low compared to 0.7.0, making the entire playstyle unviable, even with high CO2 levels like 12.5%:
Yep, this was confirmed. I’ve since bumped up the glucose production way up to compensate:
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> \*\*Brief Description of What This PR Does\*\*
> the dynamic compounds experimental P…R that multiplied the carbon dioxide requirement by a ton but didn't modify the glucose output so this should correct photosynthesis to be a viable glucose source again
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> \*\*Related Issues\*\*
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> reports after the RC about photosynthesis output problems
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> \*\*Progress Checklist\*\*
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> Note: before starting this checklist the PR should be marked as non-draft.
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> \- \[x\] PR author has checked that this PR works as intended and doesn't
> break existing features:
> https://wiki.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/wiki/Testing\_Checklist
> (this is important as to not waste the time of Thrive team
> members reviewing this PR)
> \- \[\] Initial code review passed (this and further items should not be checked by the PR author)
> \- \[x\] Functionality is confirmed working by another person (see above checklist link)
> \- \[\] Final code review is passed and code conforms to the
> \[styleguide\](https://github.com/Revolutionary-Games/Thrive/blob/master/doc/style\_guide.md).
>
> Before merging all CI jobs should finish on this PR without errors, if
> there are automatically detected style issues they should be fixed by
> the PR author. Merging must follow our
> \[styleguide\](https://github.com/Revolutionary-Games/Thrive/blob/master/doc/style\_guide.md#git).
> [@voxelbugged](#):
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> Additionally, chloroplasts are vastly less efficient than thylakoids, which definitely shouldn’t be the case.
And this was also addressed by that PR, so again it should be 4x better.
> [@voxelbugged](#):
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> The speed difference displayed in the editor is very small (19.1 vs 19.4), however the actual speed difference in-game appears to be way more apparent, with the long flagella cell being around 2x faster than the short flagella cell, which is definitely not correctly reflected in the displayed statistics.
Yep. Also nice to see someone was able to find the [GitHub issue](https://github.com/Revolutionary-Games/Thrive/issues/2095) relevant to a problem before I had to dig it up.
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### Author:  [@punctdan](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/punctdan)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2024, 12:26pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-7-1-release-candidate-testing/7810/14 "2024-10-22T12:26:37Z")
There seems to be missing translation strings for ironBigChunk and ironSmallChunk in Miche Tree.
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### Author:  [@hhyyrylainen](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/hhyyrylainen)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2024, 12:40pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/0-7-1-release-candidate-testing/7810/15 "2024-10-22T12:40:07Z")
Looks like that miche had half correct textual representation conversion functions. I fixed the use of a wrong variable here:
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