Thanks to this I was able to finally track down the problem which was pretty silly in hindsight. I had forgotten that the multicellular organelle category is entirely hidden in microbe stage so I was incorrectly trying to check if an organelle was unavailable in the microbe stage and so the suggestion tried it.
That PR also addresses some other recent feedback where people were confused about what axon and myofibril did so in the future theyâll only be available in macroscopic.
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aah31415
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Oh, so the multicellular category was present all the time in the editor but was just invisible and uninteractable for the player, right?
I finally had time to investigate this. I donât have a reason why it ultimately ends up like that but I printed some extra info and found out that the suggestion auto-evo simulation does truly result in the nucleus giving the highest score. I donât know why that really happens so I opened 2 issues:
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aah31415
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An idea I had: could the organelle suggestor be changed so that it also shows the best organelle for you species in the patch youâre in? Because at the present pretty sure it shows the best organelle for your overall population, so if you have a large population in vents for example but migrated elsewhere, at the present the suggestor will generally show the best organelle for the vents population to add instead of your patch, which might be way different.
I mean the question is that what is the primary purpose of the suggestion feature? To me it is the answer to players complaining that they cannot make cells that auto-evo likes. So the fact that it suggests what makes your species do the best in auto-evo, is the goal in my eyes. So it is not meant to be a general gameplay helper that would make more sense if it told you what it thinks is the best organelle to add in the current patch.
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aah31415
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I mean, it is important. If autoevo doesnât think much of your species, a single death could be equal to a total extinction of the species even on normal difficulty. So if you donât know how to improve your value in eyes of autoevo, the suggestor has a good say.
Actually, I couldnât let this just be so I tried one idea I had: removing the population clamp step from the suggestion. With that change the nucleus increasing the individual cost can no longer unfairly give more score, so with that change and your cell, I get the suggestion of nitrogenase instead of the nucleus:
