# Binding agent crashes the game
**URL:** https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/binding-agent-crashes-the-game/3860
**Category:** Bug Reports
**Created:** [August 30, 2021, 3:58pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/binding-agent-crashes-the-game/3860 "2021-08-30T15:58:07Z")
**Posts on this page:** 15
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### Author:  [@sparkaward](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/sparkaward)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2021, 3:58pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/binding-agent-crashes-the-game/3860/1 "2021-08-30T15:58:07Z")
I’ve tried playing around with binding in free build mode but anytime I turn the binding agent on the game crashes.
> **log**
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> Process Started
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> Godot Engine v3.3.2.stable.mono.official - [https://godotengine.org](https://godotengine.org)
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> OpenGL ES 3.0 Renderer: Intel(R) UHD Graphics
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> OpenGL ES Batching: ON
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> Mono: Log file is: ‘C:/Users/JordM/AppData/Roaming/Thrive/mono/mono\_logs/2021-08-30\_11.53.29\_17300.log’
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> This is Thrive version: 0.5.5.0
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> Startup C# locale is: en-CA Godot locale is: en
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> user:// directory is: C:/Users/JordM/AppData/Roaming/Thrive
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> Game logs are written to: C:/Users/JordM/AppData/Roaming/Thrive/logs latest log is ‘log.txt’
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> Doing delayed apply for some settings
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> Set audio output device to: Default
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> Set C# locale to: en-CA Godot locale is: en
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> Loaded registry for Compound with 11 items
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> Loaded registry for MembraneType with 6 items
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> Loaded registry for Background with 11 items
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> Loaded registry for Biome with 11 items
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> Loaded registry for BioProcess with 13 items
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> Loaded registry for OrganelleDefinition with 18 items
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> Loaded registry for MusicCategory with 3 items
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> Loaded registry for HelpTexts with 5 items
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> Loaded registry for NamedInputGroup with 6 items
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> Loaded registry for Gallery with 3 items
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> SimulationParameters loading ended
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> SimulationParameters are good
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> Jukebox now playing from: Menu
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> Jukebox: starting track: res://assets/sounds/main-menu-theme-1.ogg position: 0
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> Previous patch doesn’t exist, despawning all entities.
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> Applying patch (Pangonian Vents) settings
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> Number of clouds in this patch = 8
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> Registering new spawner: Name: ammonia density: 4E-05
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> Registering new spawner: Name: glucose density: 2E-05
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> Registering new spawner: Name: phosphates density: 4E-05
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> Registering new spawner: Name: hydrogensulfide density: 4E-05
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> oxygen spawn density is 0. It won’t spawn
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> carbondioxide spawn density is 0. It won’t spawn
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> nitrogen spawn density is 0. It won’t spawn
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> sunlight spawn density is 0. It won’t spawn
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> Number of chunks in this patch = 4
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> Registering new spawner: Name: FLOATING\_HAZARD density: 0.0001
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> Registering new spawner: Name: SMALL\_IRON\_CHUNK density: 5E-05
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> MARINE\_SNOW spawn density is 0. It won’t spawn
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> Registering new spawner: Name: BIG\_IRON\_CHUNK density: 5E-05
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> Number of species in this patch = 1
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> Registering new spawner: Name: 1 density: 1.438849E-05
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> Player Microbe spawned
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> Jukebox now playing from: MicrobeStage
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> TaskExecutor started with parallel job count: 4
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> Jukebox: starting track: res://assets/sounds/microbe-theme-5.ogg position: 0
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> Jukebox: starting track: res://assets/sounds/soundeffects/microbe-ambience2.ogg position: 0
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> Jukebox now playing from: Menu
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> Jukebox: starting track: res://assets/sounds/main-menu-theme-2.ogg position: 0
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> Entering freebuild mode
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> Editor going to freebuild mode because player has activated freebuild
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> Starting microbe editor with: 1 organelles in the microbe
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> Editor action is now: cytoplasm
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> Jukebox now playing from: MicrobeEditor
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> Jukebox: starting track: res://assets/sounds/microbe-editor-theme-1.ogg position: 0
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> Elapsing time on editor entry
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> TimedWorldOperations: running effects. elapsed: 1 total passed: 100000000
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> Applying auto-evo results
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> Species Chitus Nira has gone extinct in Pangonian Mesopelagic
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> Species Cyulosens Obia has gone extinct in Pangonian Abyssopelagic
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> Species Nequito Thiomia has gone extinct in Pangonian Coast
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> Species Lehaeidia Raroipsis has gone extinct in Pangonian Estuary
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> Species Snagpien Crodntor has gone extinct in Pangonian Estuary
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> Species Chotrum Opaspian has gone extinct in Cave
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> Species Utunra Cerubra has gone extinct in Pangonian Sea Floor
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> Species Chitus Nira has gone extinct from the world.
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> Species Cyulosens Obia has gone extinct from the world.
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> Species Snagpien Crodntor has gone extinct from the world.
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> Species Chotrum Opaspian has gone extinct from the world.
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> Species Utunra Cerubra has gone extinct from the world.
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> Editor action is now: nucleus
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> Placing organelle ‘nucleus’ at: 0, 0
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> Editor action is now: mitochondrion
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> Placing organelle ‘mitochondrion’ at: -2, 1
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> Placing organelle ‘mitochondrion’ at: 2, 1
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> Placing organelle ‘mitochondrion’ at: -1, 3
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> Placing organelle ‘mitochondrion’ at: 1, -2
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> Placing organelle ‘mitochondrion’ at: -1, 3
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> Editor action is now: vacuole
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> Placing organelle ‘vacuole’ at: 2, -1
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> Placing organelle ‘vacuole’ at: -2, 2
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> Placing
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> child process exited with code 3489660927
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### Author:  [@hhyyrylainen](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/hhyyrylainen)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2021, 4:18pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/binding-agent-crashes-the-game/3860/2 "2021-08-30T16:18:43Z")
Do you mean once you finish editing and turn on the binding mode?
That log you provided ends while printing a message about a placed organelle in the editor.
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### Author:  [@sparkaward](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/sparkaward)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2021, 4:56pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/binding-agent-crashes-the-game/3860/3 "2021-08-30T16:56:03Z")
Yes I finished edit. I’m now thinking that it might be the free build mode that isn’t working because I just tried playing as a plant using the free build mode and it crashed soon after I left the editor.
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### Author:  [@hhyyrylainen](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/hhyyrylainen)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2021, 5:13pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/binding-agent-crashes-the-game/3860/4 "2021-08-30T17:13:06Z")
Can you identify a common element? Does the microbe stage work normally for example if you load a save made in the editor and exit to the stage? And also does it work if you play “normally” meaning start a new game and play through a few editor sessions?
Depending on the results, this might be a totally random crash, _maybe_ caused by an engine bug.
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### Author:  [@sparkaward](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/sparkaward)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/binding-agent-crashes-the-game/3860/5 "2021-08-30T17:26:07Z")
Sometimes when I exit the editor the game crashes. This type of crash has never happened before the new update yet it’s been happens every few editor visits since. I haven’t had crashes at any other time except exiting the editor.
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### Author:  [@hhyyrylainen](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/hhyyrylainen)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2021, 5:33pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/binding-agent-crashes-the-game/3860/6 "2021-08-30T17:33:07Z")
This could be related to the rendering mode change in 0.5.5.
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> \*\*Describe the bug\*\*
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> When launching Thrive on Godot, I have frequent crashes.
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> \*\*To Reproduce\*\*
> The crashes happen especially at launch and when opening save loading menu.
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> \*\*System info (please complete the following information):\*\*
> \- OS: Windows 10 Family Edition
> \- Graphics card (you can find this in the game logs) GeForce MX150/PCIe/SSE2
> \- Thrive version: 0.5.5
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> \*\*Logs\*\*
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> Common error message
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> FATAL: Condition "!GDMonoUtils::is\_thread\_attached()" is true.
> At: modules/mono/csharp\_script.cpp:1344
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> Prior errors happen (EDIT -Not at latest crash in save menu - Maybe two unrelated issues?):
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> Doing delayed apply for some settings
> Error initializing global settings: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
> at Settings.ApplyAll (System.Boolean delayedApply) \[0x00020\] in \<1b95359f21d6490d882710b91037946b\>:0
> at Settings.InitializeGlobalSettings () \[0x0002f\] in \<1b95359f21d6490d882710b91037946b\>:0
> ERROR: \_update\_exports: Exception thrown from constructor of temporary MonoObject:
> At: modules/mono/csharp\_script.cpp:2338
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> Unhandled Exception:
> System.TypeInitializationException: The type initializer for 'Settings' threw an exception. ---\> System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
> at Settings.ApplyAll (System.Boolean delayedApply) \[0x00020\] in \<1b95359f21d6490d882710b91037946b\>:0
> at Settings.InitializeGlobalSettings () \[0x00055\] in \<1b95359f21d6490d882710b91037946b\>:0
> at Settings..cctor () \[0x0001e\] in \<1b95359f21d6490d882710b91037946b\>:0
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> e/AppData/Roaming/Thrive/logs latest log is 'log.txt'
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> Full log: (crash at launch)
> https://pastebin.com/LW2XvQjG
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> Full log: (crash when opening load menu)
> https://pastebin.com/M4Jx4ZCi
@Maxonovien I think this thread might interest you.
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### Author:  [@Maxonovien](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/Maxonovien)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2021, 8:43pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/binding-agent-crashes-the-game/3860/7 "2021-08-30T20:43:06Z")
Not sure this truly is related to the problem linked above, given that it seems strongly tied to thread (and I have not experienced anything related to binding agents…). The best way would be to find what error is tied to the crash, but I wasn’t able to really find it from the exit code… I’ll see if I can replicate this bug somehow.
However, since I’ve manually removed multi-threading and reinstated it again with a git stash, the game has been pretty stable. So, good news for me, but this may seem I won’t be able to replicate. I don’t really know what is going on here.
EDIT: Take that back, it just crashed
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### Author:  [@hhyyrylainen](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/hhyyrylainen)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2021, 7:36am UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/binding-agent-crashes-the-game/3860/8 "2021-08-31T07:36:02Z")
So perhaps the crash has nothing to do with the render mode? It just wants to crash randomly / due to another problem?
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### Author:  [@Maxonovien](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/Maxonovien)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2021, 9:56am UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/binding-agent-crashes-the-game/3860/9 "2021-08-31T09:56:20Z")
From what I get there seems to be a consistency with the binding agents: if placed in the editor, the game crashes for op. Pretty interestingly it seems to affect the logs (Placed … _nothing here_), so I suspect something related to the print instruction.
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### Author:  [@hhyyrylainen](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/hhyyrylainen)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2021, 9:57am UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/binding-agent-crashes-the-game/3860/10 "2021-08-31T09:57:45Z")
I give it that it is pretty rare for logs to end within a single log line.
However the bug reporter said that they can exit the editor. And that placed organelle message is printed _before_ exiting the editor, so doesn’t that mean that the log message is not related to the crash?
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### Author:  [@Maxonovien](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/Maxonovien)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2021, 10:36am UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/binding-agent-crashes-the-game/3860/11 "2021-08-31T10:36:04Z")
Indeed. Can’t that hint at a null variable instead of the `Organelle` that should be printed? Might explain why it crashes afterwards.
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### Author:  [@hhyyrylainen](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/hhyyrylainen)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2021, 10:40am UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/binding-agent-crashes-the-game/3860/12 "2021-08-31T10:40:39Z")
I’m way certain that you can’t fail placing like that, I think there’s at least 2 places that check that you are placing an organelle properly. Also C# exceptions seem to very often actually print some kind of error. The log lines being cut off more indicates like a very serious crash inside Godot itself. Also the log message is cutoff within a static string part. If the organelle was null I expect either nothing to be printed (instead an exception is thrown) _or_ the first string part is printed fully `"Placing organelle '"`.
From our code perspective it makes 0 sense that the log message is cutoff at that point. It must be a native code crash on Godot’s side.
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### Author:  [@Maxonovien](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/Maxonovien)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2021, 11:00am UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/binding-agent-crashes-the-game/3860/13 "2021-08-31T11:00:40Z")
If there’s a single string, you are probably right in saying that we have a crash from Godot. It seems to be too consistent for a random crash, though… I’ve finished my editor button branch (although I’m fairly sure there are neater way to do some things, but I didn’t find them), so I’ll make the PR and try to replicate.
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### Author:  [@sparkaward](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/sparkaward)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2021, 1:35pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/binding-agent-crashes-the-game/3860/14 "2021-08-31T13:35:46Z")
I think I should verify I was the one who closed Thrive. The crash I talked about only made the screen completely black. I exited the app myself because there was nothing I could do.
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### Author:  [@hhyyrylainen](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/hhyyrylainen)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2021, 1:37pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/binding-agent-crashes-the-game/3860/15 "2021-08-31T13:37:11Z")
Well technically if the program becomes stuck, it hasn’t crashed actually. Instead it is stuck showing a black screen.