Does it solve the problem of shaping the tools tho?
I think the proposal is amphibious civs of some sort. Also a full on underwater civs isn’t impossible, it’s just dumb enough the mods and us normal folks laugh at most ideas. If a ridiculous coincidence happened it would be possible
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by that you mean an uplifting scenario or one of these scenarios where a species with very specific features can do weird stuff with various elements of the ocean floor to get metal tools?
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It’s an aquatic civ that uses titanic underwater dragons to smeltl the meltl!!
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First we had time-travelling underwater civs, now we have underwater civs using dragons to do the forbidden act, what next? Underwater Civs with god powers?
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Yeah even my proposal involves they putting the fire places outside the water, underwater metallurgy is just too absurd
In my defense the minervins didn’t really time travelled, they just changed the position of certain objects (like an entire michigan town) from position in space and time.
Uh, work in progress. You can expect me trying to sharpen a random stone with sandpaper inside a basin of water over the next few days.
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Honestly, what is the least likely type of a civ?
“Underwater Sentient Plant Civ living on a small planet/moon barely capable of hosting sentient life, orbiting a very short lifespan star barely giving the planet enough time to develop sentient life at neckbreak pace, in the core of a large galaxy where the risk of a supernova hitting this delicate system is huge”?
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small planet/moon seems odd to me. I’d say enormous super-earth has the disadvantage, it’s basically impossible to lift anything out of the water.
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I have missed some stuff haven’t i 
So, I was thinking several options. Uplifting, yes. Trading with an above-land civ to to get started, more than a few ideas for underwater civs work fine, they just have a catch 22 where you need some metal components to get started. At that point the above land civ could die off from something that doesn’t effect people underwater if you don’t want two civs at that same time. Also, space life. A Europa, or more specifically, Enceladus, style moon shoots gysers/cryovolcanos into space, which could lead to a spacefairing species, which, despite not having air, sounds easier to develop high tech in to me.
Dw F star do not combust they merely fall into being a white dwarf, though if it eats its binary parthner it might go super nova
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oh that would be a fun apocalypse. Also collapsing into a white dwarf is still a form of nova, so probably not fun.
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On the other hand, small planets can very easily get Mars’d (if you know what I mean).
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i mean, i find just dying kinda boring. It’s technically harder if you’re doomed to die than doomed to stay in this safe sport, but at least something can happen.
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I think it would be
“Germanium based civ which spontaneously arose due to quantum fluctuations in late-late-late universe era that their whole culture is based around an fanfic of an non existent board game from an alternate 2040s where the japanese were invaded by the soviets”
Basically it was an weird project of mine that i tried to turn into a analog “horror” but procastination killed it
https://imgur.com/a/PZoRLrO
In short, Europa has aliens, want to meet humans, Europa core is sapient and tell them to change objects from places (like throwing a probe from the 80s on 60s ussr) and eventually they change Europa position on the start of the solar system so its collide with Callisto forming a planet bettween Earth and Mars called Minerva.
Later it’s revelated that Minerva is like an big unicellular organism that want to spread the universe with love
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How does this large organism function?
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It’s a cell on a very, very big scale. First there is a very, very strong magnosphere that act like a cell wall, and the atmosphere like an plasmatic membrane. Most organisms on the planet act as organelles and other cell parts, for example, the sapient species that comes into contact with the core (aka nucleus) acts as an RNA, transmitting information from the nucleus to large living and elderly structures that produce the desired organisms. On the surface, there are colossal islands of photosynthetic algae that, when they die, are digested by herbivores and their waste becomes raw material for the rest of life on the planet. Some whales that feed on theses materials generate colossal amounts of heat (they retain radioisotopes from the food or smth) that helps the planet to don’t frezze during it’s interestellar migrations. There is also an small asteroid that acts like an centriole but i didn’t developed much this part.
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That’s honestly pretty cool, i’ll have to watch the video thing soon, I like the Minerva thing, reminds me of how in starfinder (space pathfinder) there’s a moon in the outer solar system which is canonically an egg and it’s just covered in cults who are convinced it’s their savior and non of the other cult’s saviors.
We have got our stars, one K type, one F type, in close orbit, they’ll look like Tatooine but less red most likely.
We are also pretty secure in our planet type, it’s going to be a moon of a gas giant (won’t closer the vote for a few hours though). I don’t think anyone really, really, wanted a Europa-like so I’ll assume it will be habitable zone, if I was wrong, tell me, we’ll do a vote. Knowing our planet-moon duo will be in the habitable zone, and that anything too far out will have it’s orbit disrupted by the red dwarf, here’s polls on how many planets we need.
Planets closer than ours (earth has Venus and Mercury, so 3 sounds like a good upper bound)
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Planets farther than ours (earth has like 6 or 7, keep in mind I’m not counting dwarf planets and no planet nine distance things, red dwarf will kill them)
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Planets of the red dwarf (proxima centari has 2 or 3, so 4 seems the upper limit)
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Oh boy I surely hope this moon host planet doesn’t get annilhated by the sun solar wind
MISTER PRESIDENT GET DOWN gas giant gets hit by a massive solar wind cause red dwarves have hissy fits
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Hot jupiters can happen around K and F stars and more rarely even around red dwarves.
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I believe they were referring to
Which sounds funny.
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Well, I think that as long as they remain near the gas giant they would be more protected, but interplanetary travel will be much more difficult for them.
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