Endless Expanse 2.0

Why is my oxygen resistance -40? I thought it says that all oxygen is filtered out. Also I don’t understand how I can remove the disadvantage, does it have to do with the backup genomes?

I will migrate some of my population to the pentane oceans.

well the oxygen resistance stat is determined by a lot of factors and if one of your cells get punctured at all in an atmosphere with oxygen that entire cell will turn to sand so assuming your cells never get punctured it would be functionally 20 but since that isn’t the case it’s still -40 until you get cells that cannot be punctured, and there is an organism that punctures your cells to take their energy in the dark due to you being able to biofilm and it not being able to.

not really, since it integrates every piece of RNA it comes into contact with you just need to prevent RNA you don’t want from coming into contact with it and you already have chemoreceptors that can read nucleic acids


i’m gonna move up again and try to engulf some primium virium since i have the necessary things for that and they have something i need

action: travel up to mesopelagic vents (Is this like on the boder between the Carbon based area and silicion based?)

nope, the epipelagic is split into two parts for that, also silicon based life can enter the dihydrogen monoxide with some adaptations like staying inside a liquid hydrocarbon inside another cell or becoming silicon-oxide based, a negative oxygen tolerance means you probably can’t survive touching any form of oxygen other than silicon dioxide, there are exceptions of course, for example: solaris examina, as long as it stays perfectly intact it can touch any amount of oxygen with a lower concentration of oxygen than 20%, past that it starts slowly turning into sand and at 100% oxygen it almost immediately becomes an oil filled glass bead, it also immediately starts turning into sand if the outer membrane is punctured above 1% oxygen.

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Action: try to duplicate my energy producing proteins to increase the energy production and size of the microbe

ignore the fact that this post is the same one as the last round i was using the edit feature to make the round and forgot to ctrl-X and then hit reply and ctrl-V before hitting the submit button and can’t figure out how to revert it

ROUND 4: action results

@Nonametoseehere

attempted action: migrate partially to pentane oceans

Results

6

not only do you succeed in moving to the pentane oceans, but you also succeed in moving to the pentane rivers and throughout the entirety of your great lake

species details

base element: silicon
common name: Living Solar Cells
scientific name: Solaris examina
existing traits: photoelectric RNA, RNA replicase with an RNA flagella bound to its back end, plasmid that likes accepting random bits of RNA (+1 MP but it has disadvantage), silicophospholipid double proto-membrane, electric silicophospholipid production, chemoreceptors that can detect lipids and RNA of any kind as well as the pheromones they produce(+1 to RNA absorption rolls), pheremones that are released in light, membrane bound silicon nanowires to transfer energy*2, porous capsid-like structures that each hold one copy of the genome, extracellular solar panel structures with conductive intramembranous roots and air bubbles at the ends, peaceful resource transfer pili, outer membrane filters out any and all oxygen by constantly recycling its silica reserves, energy transfer caste, stabby cells
respiration methods:
description: a silicon based photoelectric proto-eukaryote that can give energy to other members of its species via extremely thin silicon nanowires inside its membranes(one of which acts as an oxygen barrier) as well as attract other Solaris examina to increase energy generation and make microscopic mats of unbound living solar cells that all share energy and move with the light to a certain extent, the most recent types of cell to be found in the clusters of solaris examina are long and thin cells that connect their wires into all the cells they touch, and a free moving cell with a perforator pilus to pop kryto namenaldi cells when they aren’t giving back what they take
current habitat(s): pentane shallows, pentane rivers, pentane oceans, an entire great pentane lake.
STATS: size: 51nm, speed: 36.8nm\s, stealth: 0, oxygen resistance: -40, population: 4512, fecundity: ~1/pop, energy gen: 16, average energy usage: 6, colonies range from just five cells to nearly a thousand, there are only three documented cases of this happening in this century though

@Cha

attempted action: move up to mesopelagic vents

Results

5

you successfully move to the mesopelagic vents and an epipelagic one

species details

base element: carbon
common name: moderate vent protobacteria
scientific name: Primium virium
existing traits: RNA duplicase, monolayer bilipid membrane, extremely effective sulfide metabolism that produces a lot of Cl+, hgt, 6 independently replicated plasmids, iron chlorinating rusticyanin that protect the RNA from chlorination and work fast enough to only have their energy production limited by the Cl+/Cl2 concentration, lipogenic RNA, moderately fast flagellum, hydrogen peroxide synthesizing proteins
respiration methods: H+, sodium sulfide production, iron chlorination, iron chloride decomposition vacuole,
description: an endangered species of sulfur respirating and iron chlorinating prokaryote that can reproduce by transferring its plasmids to protocells and micelles as well as by performing mitosis meaning that it is able to come back from extinction as long as a single plasmid remains but the plasmids do not replicate in the absence of usable energy, it also produces hydrogen peroxide which it uses to dechlorinate its iron
current habitat(s): bathypelagic vents
Stats: size: 40nm, speed: 30nm/s, stealth: 0, oxygen resistance: 0, population 38,000, fecundity: ~4/pop, energy gen: 13, energy usage: 8

@willow

attempted action: move up and engulf some primium virium

results

4

you successfully gain an endosymbiotic cell of the species primium virium and move up to the mesopelagic vets

species details

base element: carbon
common name: proto archaean
scientific name: primium κλειστόθείοκύκλος

existing traits

RNA duplicase, monolayer bilipid membrane, RNA enhanced metabolosomes, plasmid, ribozyme, chirality reversing RNA replicase, independently replicated RNA replicase, hydrogen sulfide reducing proteins, telomeres, proteins that go through the membrane to allow gasses to easily exit the cell as internal pressure decreases, total membrane stabilization proteins, cytoskeleton that can move around the filaments to facilitate movement and cell division.

endosymbiotic primium virium

traits: RNA duplicase, monolayer bilipid membrane, extremely effective sulfide metabolism that produces a lot of Cl+, hgt, 6 independently replicated plasmids, iron chlorinating rusticyanin that protect the RNA from chlorination and work fast enough to only have their energy production limited by the Cl+/Cl2 concentration, lipogenic RNA, moderately fast flagellum, hydrogen peroxide synthesizing proteins

respiration methods: H2S reduction, facultative sulfuric/aerobic respiration
description: a telomere bearing prokaryote that uses proteins that make energy from H2S and RNA proteins that make energy from anything with the same valence shell as oxygen to create a contained sulfur cycle which it uses to power itself with the only input needed when not growing being glucose
current habitat(s):
Stats:84.0-169.6nm, speed: 16 nm/s, stealth: 0, oxygen resistance: 10, pressure change resistance: 5, population: 846, fecundity: ~1.5/pop, energy generation: 23, energy usage: 12.2,

@Chiori

attempted action: duplicate energy production

Results

5

you successfully duplicate your energy production system at the cost of not reproducing this round

species details

base element: carbon
common name:
scientific name: primium flagellus
existing traits: RNA duplicase, monolayer bilipid membrane, RNA enhanced metabolosomes, plasmid, ribozyme, chirality reversing RNA replicase, proteins that chop up any and all foreign RNA, improved flagellum that uses very little energy, proteins that use kinetic energy(heat, sound, being pushed, etc.) to make glucose and release it into the cell, thermoreceptors
respiration methods: facultative sulfuric/aerobic respiration, kinetorespiration
description: a prokaryote that uses metabolosomes that don’t care what they use to break down glucose as long as it has the same valence shell as oxygen to power its flagellum and viral defense mechanism
current habitat(s): abyssopelagic vents
Stats: 40.8nm, speed: 30.6nm/s, stealth: 0, oxygen resistance: 10, population: 345, fecundity: ~1/pop, energy generation: 24, energy usage: 3.2

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AI species:

kryto namenaldi

base element: silicon
common name: Living Solar Cells
scientific name: Kryto Namenaldi
existing traits: photoelectric RNA, RNA replicase with an RNA flagella bound to its back end, plasmid that likes accepting random bits of RNA (+1 MP but it has disadvantage), silicophospholipid proto-membrane, electric silicophospholipid production, chemoreceptors that can detect lipids and RNA of any kind as well as the pheromones they produce(+1 to finding and absorbing specific types of RNA), pheremones that are released in light, membrane bound silicon nanowires to keep the wheel from stopping in energy deficient organisms that it can give energy to, electroreceptors, photoreceptor, spike to sap energy from solaris examina by grabbing onto their membrane wires in low light conditions, ammonia based intramembrane metal reduction, antioxidant production/
respiration methods:
description: a silicon based photoelectric prokaryote that can give energy to other members of its species via extremely thin silicon nanowires inside its membrane as well as attract other kryto namenaldi to increase energy generation and make microscopic mats of unbound living solar cells that all share energy and move with the light to a certain extent, it can use ammonia within its membrane to take the electrons from metals to survive low light conditions in the absence of solaris examina
current habitat(s): pentane shallows
STATS: size: 48nm, speed: 37.2nm\s, stealth: 0, oxygen resistance: -50, population: 690, fecundity: ~1/pop, energy gen: 8, average energy usage: 4

patches:

STARTING ROCK

type: moon
orbiting: gas giant that is almost a star
current atmosphere: 89% nitrogen, 0% CO2 0% O2 4% argon 5.9% SiH2 2.1% H2S
starting patches:
the core:
void(you must be able to break bedrock to get here),
near mantle:
superheated magma:
brimstone caves:
abyssopelagic:
abyssal ocean
abyssal seafloor
abyssal hydrothermal vents: primium κλειστόθείοκύκλος, primium flagellus
abyssopelagic caverns
bathypelagic:
bathypelagic ocean
bathypelagic seafloor
bathypelagic vents: primium virium, primium κλειστόθείοκύκλος
bathypelagic caverns
mesopelagic:
mesopelagic ocean
mesopelagic seafloor
mesopelagic vents: primium virium, primium κλειστόθείοκύκλος
mesopelagic caverns
epipelagic:
epipelagic oceans:
pentane ocean: solaris examina
epipelagic seafloor
epipelagic vents
epipelagic caverns
great lakes:
unnamed great pentane lake: Kryto Namenaldi, solaris examina
ponds
estuaries
coastal
surface:
pentane river: solaris examina
desert
beach
cave
mountain
glacier
north pole
south pole
floating sea rock
island
plateau
ravine
etc.
skies: low atmosphere, high atmosphere
space: low lunar orbit, medium lunar orbit, high lunar orbit,

NEIGBORING ROCK

type: moon
orbiting: gas giant that is almost a star
characteristics: always near your starting rock but not orbiting it, dark purple oceans made of ammonia, high pressure atmosphere with no oxygen, lots of volcanic activity, the oceans have settled to a dark purple, for now. more will be revealed with optical advancements through technological or biological evolution.

the round starting after this is posted is an editor round
@Cha @Chiori @Nonametoseehere

Mutations:

No longer absorb detrimental RNA (or I guess it would also be a DNA counterpart because I have a nucleus), by reading it, and if it makes production worse, avoiding it.

Skin cells, so when they are exposed to oxygen, internal cells are fine.

(Disadvantage, or not disadvantage if the first mutation is a success) Usage of pheremones for neurotransmitting to coordinate larger colonies.

Mutation 1: pilus to defend myself
Mutation 2: A nucleus

Mutation uno: using the HCl that would damage the cell into CaCO3 turning it into H2O, CO2 and CaCl2

Mutation dos: increase in size.

which box did you look at?


  • simplify endosymbiotic primium virium
  • proper pseudopods

Im not sure what is what

to figure out what mutations you want you should look in your species details box

I cant say i really understand it but i think i go with simplify endosymbiotic primium virum

that’s in my species box, you don’t have an endosymbiotic primium virium, and you have two MP, not one. look in the box labeled with your username and find the species details box.

This is all it says so i dont understand what your trying to say , the box you talk about dosnt exist. I dont know much about biology and i dont know what im supposed to look at.

If I get it right Willow means you have two mutation points so two things can be added or changed and that is the box Willow is talking about. (Also don’t worry I also sometimes confuse myself with biology despite liking it)

Ahh thank you that i understand^^

that’s the box i want you to look at, also sorry for confusing you with the mutations i chose, if i’m putting bullet marks assume that’s what i’m choosing as my mutations

Btw Willow if you’re waiting for Chiori to submit they edited their mutations Fyi

ROUND 4: editor results

@Nonametoseehere

attempted mutations: RNA filtering(removes disadvantage from third MP[fyi, you need to evolve DNA to get DNA]), dermal tissue, transportation of new pheremones through wire cells for use as neurotransmitters for coordination of large colonies

Results

6,6,1

species details

base element: silicon
common name: Living Solar Cells
scientific name: Solaris examina
existing traits: photoelectric RNA, RNA replicase with an RNA flagella bound to its back end, plasmid that likes accepting random bits of RNA (+1 MP), silicophospholipid double proto-membrane, electric silicophospholipid production, chemoreceptors that can detect lipids and RNA of any kind as well as the pheromones they produce(+1 to RNA absorption rolls), pheremones that are released in light, membrane bound silicon nanowires to transfer energy*2, porous capsid-like structures that each hold one copy of the genome, extracellular solar panel structures with conductive intramembranous roots and air bubbles at the ends, peaceful resource transfer pili, outer membrane filters out any and all oxygen by constantly recycling its silica reserves, energy transfer caste, stabby cells, RNA filtering membranes(removes possibility of death by virus and removes disadvantage from unstable RNA), dermal cells, morse code wires in wire cells
respiration methods: photovoltaic respiration
description: a silicon based photoelectric proto-eukaryote that can give energy to other members of its species via extremely thin silicon nanowires inside its membranes(one of which acts as an oxygen barrier) as well as attract other Solaris examina to increase energy generation and make microscopic mats of unbound living solar cells that all share energy and move with the light to a certain extent, the most recent types of cell to be found in the clusters of solaris examina are long and thin cells that connect their wires into all the cells they touch, and a free moving cell with a perforator pilus to pop kryto namenaldi cells when they aren’t giving back what they take
current habitat(s): pentane shallows, pentane rivers, pentane oceans, an entire great pentane lake.
STATS: size: 51nm, speed: 36.8nm\s, stealth: 0, oxygen resistance: -20, population: 9022, fecundity: ~1/pop, energy gen: 17, average energy usage: 5, colonies range from just five cells to a few thousand, there is only one documented cases of this happening in this century however, and it contains exactly 5042 cells of solaris examina

@Cha

attempted mutations: usage of calcium carbonate to reduce hydrogen chloride into diyhydrogen monoxide, carbon dioxide, and calcium chloride, increase in size

Results

1,3

species details

base element: carbon
common name: common vent protobacteria
scientific name: Primium virium
existing traits: RNA duplicase, monolayer bilipid membrane, extremely effective sulfide metabolism that produces a lot of Cl+, hgt, 6 independently replicated plasmids, iron chlorinating rusticyanin that protect the RNA from chlorination and work fast enough to only have their energy production limited by the Cl+/Cl2 concentration, lipogenic RNA, moderately fast flagellum, hydrogen peroxide synthesizing proteins
respiration methods: H+, sodium sulfide production, iron chlorination, iron chloride decomposition capsid, usage of CaCS3 to turn HCl into H2S, CS2, and CaCl
description: an abundant species of sulfur respirating and iron chlorinating prokaryote that can reproduce by transferring its plasmids to protocells and micelles as well as by performing mitosis meaning that it is able to come back from extinction as long as a single plasmid remains but the plasmids do not replicate in the absence of usable energy, it also produces hydrogen peroxide which it uses to dechlorinate its iron and gets rid of the chlorine using CaCS3 producing hydrogen sulfide, carbon disulfide, and CaCl
current habitat(s): bathypelagic vents, mesopelagic vents
Stats: size: 40nm, speed: 30nm/s, stealth: 0, oxygen resistance: 0, population: 151,582, fecundity: ~4.2/pop, energy gen: 13, energy usage: 9

@willow

attempted mutations: simplify endosymbiotic primium virium, proper pseudopods

results

4,1

species details

base element: carbon
common name: sulfur eating archaea
scientific name: sulfurus amoebus

existing traits

RNA duplicase, monolayer bilipid membrane, RNA enhanced metabolosomes, plasmid, ribozyme, chirality reversing RNA replicase, independently replicated RNA replicase, hydrogen sulfide reducing proteins, telomeres, proteins that go through the membrane to allow gasses to easily exit the cell as internal pressure decreases, total membrane stabilization proteins, cytoskeleton that can move around the filaments to facilitate movement and cell division, proper chemical reactionary system, three plasmids from the endosymbiotic primium virium that only replicate when the rest of the cell’s RNA does moved around by the cytoskeleton that act as a way to turn parasites and liposomes into endosymbionts.

endosymbiotic primium virium

traits: RNA duplicase, monolayer bilipid membrane, extremely effective sulfide metabolism that produces a lot of Cl+, hgt, 3 independently replicated plasmids, iron chlorinating rusticyanin that protect the RNA from chlorination and work fast enough to only have their energy production limited by the Cl+/Cl2 concentration, lipogenic RNA, hydrogen peroxide synthesizing proteins

respiration methods: H2S reduction, facultative sulfuric/aerobic respiration
description: a telomere bearing ameboid prokaryote that uses proteins that make energy from H2S and RNA proteins that make energy from anything with the same valence shell as oxygen to create a contained sulfur cycle which it uses to power itself with the only input needed when not growing being glucose, it has incorperated a primium virium which has since been simplified into itself as a lipid factory, giving it the most necessary prerequisite to moving out of the vents where lipids are most abundant
current habitat(s):
Stats:84.0-169.6nm, speed: 16 nm/s, stealth: 10, oxygen resistance: 10, pressure change resistance: 5, population: 1259, fecundity: ~1.5/pop, energy generation: 23, energy usage: 11.1,

@Chiori

attempted mutations: perforator pilus, nucleoid(you are far too small for a nucleus)

Results

6,2

species details

base element: carbon
common name:
scientific name: primium flagellus
existing traits: RNA duplicase, monolayer bilipid membrane, RNA enhanced metabolosomes, plasmid, ribozyme, chirality reversing RNA replicase, proteins that chop up any and all foreign RNA, improved flagellum that uses very little energy, proteins that use kinetic energy(heat, sound, being pushed, etc.) to make glucose and release it into the cell, thermoreceptors, perforator pilus, capsid nucleoid that breaks down lipids when in direct contact with them
respiration methods: facultative sulfuric/aerobic respiration, kinetorespiration
description: a capsid-bearing eukaryote that uses metabolosomes that don’t care what they use to break down glucose as long as it has the same valence shell as oxygen to power its flagellum, viral defense mechanism, and lipid digesting nucleoid
current habitat(s): abyssopelagic vents
Stats: 40.8nm, speed: 30.6nm/s, stealth: 0, oxygen resistance: 10, population: 650, fecundity: ~0.9/pop, energy generation: 24, energy usage: 8

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AI species:

kryto namenaldi

base element: silicon
common name: Living Solar Cells
scientific name: Kryto Namenaldi
existing traits: photoelectric RNA, RNA replicase with an RNA flagella bound to its back end, plasmid that likes accepting random bits of RNA (+1 MP but it has disadvantage), silicophospholipid proto-membrane, electric silicophospholipid production, chemoreceptors that can detect lipids and RNA of any kind as well as the pheromones they produce(+1 to finding and absorbing specific types of RNA), pheremones that are released when the cell has high levels of energy, membrane bound silicon nanowires to keep the wheel from stopping in energy deficient organisms that it can give energy to, electroreceptors, photoreceptor, small double hooked spike to sap energy from solaris examina by grabbing onto their membrane wires in low light conditions, ammonia based intramembrane metal reduction, antioxidant production,
respiration methods: photovoltaics
description: a silicon based photoelectric prokaryote that can give energy to other members of its species via extremely thin silicon nanowires inside its membrane as well as attract other kryto namenaldi to increase energy generation and make microscopic mats of unbound living solar cells that all share energy and move with the light to a certain extent, it can use ammonia within its membrane to take the electrons from metals to survive low light conditions in the absence of solaris examina, as an adaptation to taking energy from solaris examina and giving very little back it now has a sharp hook to latch onto the wires of solaris examina to connect to their circuits
current habitat(s): pentane shallows
STATS: size: 48nm, speed: 37.2nm\s, stealth: 0, oxygen resistance: -50, population: 1338, fecundity: ~1/pop, energy intake: 20, average energy usage: 4

patches:

STARTING ROCK

type: moon
orbiting: gas giant that is almost a star
current atmosphere: 89% nitrogen, 0% CO2 0% O2 4% argon 5.8% SiH2 2.2% H2S .1% other atmospheric gasses
starting patches:
the core:
void(you must be able to break bedrock to get here),
near mantle:
superheated magma:
brimstone caves:
abyssopelagic:
abyssal ocean
abyssal seafloor
abyssal hydrothermal vents: primium κλειστόθείοκύκλος, primium flagellus
abyssopelagic caverns
bathypelagic:
bathypelagic ocean
bathypelagic seafloor
bathypelagic vents: primium virium, primium κλειστόθείοκύκλος
bathypelagic caverns
mesopelagic:
mesopelagic ocean
mesopelagic seafloor
mesopelagic vents: primium virium, primium κλειστόθείοκύκλος
mesopelagic caverns
epipelagic:
epipelagic oceans:
pentane ocean: solaris examina
epipelagic seafloor
epipelagic vents
epipelagic caverns
great lakes:
unnamed great pentane lake: Kryto Namenaldi, solaris examina
ponds
estuaries
coastal
surface:
pentane river: solaris examina
desert
beach
cave
mountain
glacier
north pole
south pole
floating sea rock
island
plateau
ravine
etc.
skies: low atmosphere, high atmosphere
space: low lunar orbit, medium lunar orbit, high lunar orbit,

NEIGBORING ROCK

type: moon
orbiting: gas giant that is almost a star
characteristics: always near your starting rock but not orbiting it, dark purple oceans made of ammonia, high pressure atmosphere with no oxygen, lots of volcanic activity, the oceans have started becoming more black and the land is slightly darker than usual. more will be revealed with optical advancements through technological or biological evolution.

the round starting after this is posted is an action round
@Cha @Chiori @Nonametoseehere

just so everyone knows, you need 40 nm to take up less than or equal to 50% of your diameter and you need either an endosymbiote or a vesicle to get a basic lipid based nucleus, this is because you need to get the internal membrane from somewhere and you need to be big enough to have another membrane inside your cell without it just becoming a double membrane and currently almost everyone is just around 10 nm bigger than the smallest of them which is according to google 30 nm across and i’m basically counting a nucleus as just a specialized DNA vesicle for the size math