# Ideas for the Aware Stage \[Put your ideas in this thread\]

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**Category:** Aware Stage\
**Created:** [September 5, 2019, 10:17pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/ideas-for-the-aware-stage-put-your-ideas-in-this-thread/2088 "2019-09-05T22:17:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![MechanicalPumpkin](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/mechanicalpumpkin/32/10767_2.png) [@MechanicalPumpkin](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/MechanicalPumpkin)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 9:03pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/ideas-for-the-aware-stage-put-your-ideas-in-this-thread/2088/101 "2020-05-29T21:03:02Z")

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Would animals that resemble circles or any other shape be possible? There are no animals on earth that resemble any sort of geometric shape that I know of but would it be possible in thrive? I think it would be but it wouldn’t survive for very long.

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**Author:** ![LordLovat](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/lordlovat/32/6246_2.png) [@LordLovat](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/LordLovat)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 9:48pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/ideas-for-the-aware-stage-put-your-ideas-in-this-thread/2088/102 "2020-05-29T21:48:57Z")

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> [@MechanicalPumpkin](#):
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> would it be possible in thrive?

The cool when we say thrive is that it can be both possible to thrive, (develop, grow) or the game called thrive, which technically only includes thriveble and plausible things

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**Author:** ![MechanicalPumpkin](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/mechanicalpumpkin/32/10767_2.png) [@MechanicalPumpkin](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/MechanicalPumpkin)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 9:50pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/ideas-for-the-aware-stage-put-your-ideas-in-this-thread/2088/103 "2020-05-29T21:50:05Z")

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I believe such a species would not last long in the wild since they would be easy targets and they would have almost no way of defense,

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**Author:** ![Nover452](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/nover452/32/14963_2.png) [@Nover452](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/Nover452)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 10:17pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/ideas-for-the-aware-stage-put-your-ideas-in-this-thread/2088/104 "2020-05-29T22:17:08Z")

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well if a ball species exists it may be because a mass extinction happened and it somehow survived, dunno how a ball would survive but still, I don’t know how it could survive otherwise

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Also B A L L is good, not because i’m a ball

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**Author:** ![MechanicalPumpkin](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/mechanicalpumpkin/32/10767_2.png) [@MechanicalPumpkin](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/MechanicalPumpkin)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 10:18pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/ideas-for-the-aware-stage-put-your-ideas-in-this-thread/2088/105 "2020-05-29T22:18:07Z")

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Maybe the ball sucks in food and hides in hollow caves or something? And then if they survive maybe they can become a mighty COUNTRYBALL empire!

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**Author:** ![Nover452](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/nover452/32/14963_2.png) [@Nover452](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/Nover452)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 10:21pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/ideas-for-the-aware-stage-put-your-ideas-in-this-thread/2088/106 "2020-05-29T22:21:52Z")

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yes countryball empire our empire grows stronger everyday

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Also because this is about aware stage how would someone evolve a nervous system? Why would you need a complex brain if a simple one works? How would the AI evolve one? (It may have already been talked but i haven’t seen it)

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**Author:** ![MechanicalPumpkin](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/mechanicalpumpkin/32/10767_2.png) [@MechanicalPumpkin](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/MechanicalPumpkin)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 10:23pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/ideas-for-the-aware-stage-put-your-ideas-in-this-thread/2088/107 "2020-05-29T22:23:09Z")

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Maybe someone evolves a brain first then some nervous things. Or the other way around. I think after you complete the multicellular stage you have a nervous system and a brain as well.

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**Author:** ![Nover452](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/nover452/32/14963_2.png) [@Nover452](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/Nover452)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 10:31pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/ideas-for-the-aware-stage-put-your-ideas-in-this-thread/2088/108 "2020-05-29T22:31:10Z")

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> [@MechanicalPumpkin](#):
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> I think after you complete the multicellular stage you have a nervous system and a brain as well.

Well multicellular ends when you have a complex nervous system, but you have to evolve one and i want to know how. And also if a species can change depending of it’s planet’s system (Like the moon or moons change the way a species evolves)

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**Author:** ![MechanicalPumpkin](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/mechanicalpumpkin/32/10767_2.png) [@MechanicalPumpkin](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/MechanicalPumpkin)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 10:33pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/ideas-for-the-aware-stage-put-your-ideas-in-this-thread/2088/109 "2020-05-29T22:33:11Z")

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Like cells ending up to have different systems like the digestive system. I think you would have to spend evo points on your cells to eventually have a complex nervous system.

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**Author:** ![Gotor](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/gotor/32/2782_2.png) [@Gotor](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/Gotor)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 5:59am UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/ideas-for-the-aware-stage-put-your-ideas-in-this-thread/2088/110 "2020-05-30T05:59:06Z")

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About the animals like circles or ball. I know 3 species, you maybe wrote about.  
_ **Nasikabatrachus sahyadrensis** _ - purple frog. If you look from above, it will look like a circle.  
_ **Pangolins** _ - mammals, looking like lizards with protect plates on back. It can displace itself in ball to protect.  
_ **Hedgehog** _ - mammals with ability of pangolins, but they have needles.  
You can also add in this list your beings.

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**Author:** ![Pentaphon](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/ac8455/32.png) [@Pentaphon](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/Pentaphon)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 6:01am UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/ideas-for-the-aware-stage-put-your-ideas-in-this-thread/2088/111 "2020-05-30T06:01:41Z")

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What about starfish and sand dollars?

On the nervous system thing, I’m guessing it will have to be largely a passive bonus. A few different AIs could be available for different stages, but obviously realistically simulating behavior would be too complex.

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**Author:** ![MechanicalPumpkin](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/mechanicalpumpkin/32/10767_2.png) [@MechanicalPumpkin](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/MechanicalPumpkin)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 6:03am UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/ideas-for-the-aware-stage-put-your-ideas-in-this-thread/2088/112 "2020-05-30T06:03:09Z")

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Starfish are actually really cool, I forgot to mention them in this thread.

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**Author:** ![Pentaphon](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/ac8455/32.png) [@Pentaphon](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/Pentaphon)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 6:13am UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/ideas-for-the-aware-stage-put-your-ideas-in-this-thread/2088/113 "2020-05-30T06:13:06Z")

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They’re one of my favorites too. Check out the “Echinoblog” sometime if you have the chance. It’s written by Chris Mah who’s a big name in the study of starfish.

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**Author:** ![Foushoo](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/foushoo/32/3227_2.png) [@Foushoo](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/Foushoo)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 8:05am UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/ideas-for-the-aware-stage-put-your-ideas-in-this-thread/2088/114 "2020-06-13T08:05:37Z")

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> [@Deus](#):
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> Idea B
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> Main Question: How can we represent inheritance and learning in a way that could simulate knowledge passed down from generation to generation or could allow for a system of migration?
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> Thrive could have a progressive trait that could be developed which allows for the transfer of minimap information on a limited scale to the next generation of the player’s organism. At first, the player would basically be starting from scratch from one generation to the next in regard to the minimap; however, if a player invests in a trait which allows for better parenting, the minimap could have a detail layer 2 be passed down from generation to generation. For example, an intelligent creature could pass down a permanently memorized area of the map in detail layer 2 to its offspring, which fades away after that generation and is replaced by the offspring’s memorized area when passed to the offspring’s offspring.
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> A system like this could be toyed with in a way that represents various phenomenon we see in nature. If a player wants to consistently migrate from generation to generation, they could upgrade a trait to the point at which an organism could memorise a section of the path that could be passed down from generation to generation. If prey item migrates every once in a while and the player wants to mark down a certain part of the migratory pattern for future generations, a player could create a trait which allows for a certain area of the map to be marked down in detail layer 2 during a certain time of the year, representing the instinct found in some animals that we have absolutely no explanation for.

I really like this idea.  
One thing this made me think of is a possible shortcut to passed down memory.  
What if instead of just raw memory or lack of memory of surroundings, certain features of a memory could be amplified by a higher sensitivity to pheremones.  
For example imagine an organism (such as a mouse) exploring a location when suddenly it sense the pheromones of a historic predator (a cat for ex.). If your organism develops a nervous reaction to sense such a potentially pheromone and passes it on genetically to its offspring it can avoid locations of high predatory pheromone concentration (perhaps represented by a flashy red tint to the area on the minimap whichever level it is from 1-3) without learning of knowing any other memory of anything else in that location. The same can go for the visual coloration on or auditory call of a plant or animaloid that is dangerous, poisonous, or predatory.

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**Author:** ![MechanicalPumpkin](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/mechanicalpumpkin/32/10767_2.png) [@MechanicalPumpkin](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/MechanicalPumpkin)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 2:24pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/ideas-for-the-aware-stage-put-your-ideas-in-this-thread/2088/115 "2020-06-13T14:24:32Z")

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How would an ecosystem of animals who breathe carbon dioxide and exhale oxygen work? Would it even be possible? (This may be the last idea I’m posting here because I am running out of them.)

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**Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 3:40pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/ideas-for-the-aware-stage-put-your-ideas-in-this-thread/2088/116 "2020-06-13T15:40:49Z")

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I don’t think that would work, as there are no ectothermic reactions which use up CO2 and produce O2

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**Author:** ![Gotor](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/gotor/32/2782_2.png) [@Gotor](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/Gotor)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 3:43pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/ideas-for-the-aware-stage-put-your-ideas-in-this-thread/2088/117 "2020-06-13T15:43:47Z")

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I fear, it’s impossible. Breathing - process of burning in organism (roughly speaking). Oxygen can’t get more carbon in 1 molecule. Only CO, but in blood it… It isn’t best death.  
I can’t write every reason here because i only learn and even can’t talk on English good. 😬  
But it’s impossible. I can talk you, it’s true.  
But the animal can live with plants in symbiosis or have their chlorophyll just like some salamanders or Elysia Chlorotica

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**Author:** ![MechanicalPumpkin](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/mechanicalpumpkin/32/10767_2.png) [@MechanicalPumpkin](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/MechanicalPumpkin)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 3:58pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/ideas-for-the-aware-stage-put-your-ideas-in-this-thread/2088/118 "2020-06-13T15:58:33Z")

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Wait I had another idea

How would playing the Aware stage until your sun eventually evaporates all water be like?

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**Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 4:41pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/ideas-for-the-aware-stage-put-your-ideas-in-this-thread/2088/119 "2020-06-13T16:41:16Z")

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If sun will evaporate whole water (despite the fact that this is extremely unlikely) water will be in clouds and with time will fall as precipitation. Water circulation on Earth

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**Author:** ![MechanicalPumpkin](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/mechanicalpumpkin/32/10767_2.png) [@MechanicalPumpkin](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/MechanicalPumpkin)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2020, 5:57pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/ideas-for-the-aware-stage-put-your-ideas-in-this-thread/2088/120 "2020-06-13T17:57:35Z")

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Well I meant like all the water would be evaporated quickly as soon as they hit the ground becuase they are too close to the sun. But I get what you are saying,

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