# Ideas for the Macroscopic Stage \[Put your ideas in this thread\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Macroscopic Stage\ **Created:** [January 13, 2025, 8:25am UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/ideas-for-the-macroscopic-stage-put-your-ideas-in-this-thread/8062 "2025-01-13T08:25:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![aah31415](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/aah31415/32/16247_2.png) [@aah31415](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/aah31415)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 8:28am UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/ideas-for-the-macroscopic-stage-put-your-ideas-in-this-thread/8062/41 "2025-01-15T08:28:17Z")
I don’t think they are “vital” for the ecosystems to function… ---
**Author:** ![Poodelicus](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/poodelicus/32/14372_2.png) [@Poodelicus](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/Poodelicus)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 9:05am UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/ideas-for-the-macroscopic-stage-put-your-ideas-in-this-thread/8062/42 "2025-01-15T09:05:44Z")
The plants in question need much less sunlight than their higher evolved outdoor relatives. Because a simpler plant needs less energy and therefore can survive deeper in the cave where less sunlight reaches. ---
**Author:** ![aah31415](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/aah31415/32/16247_2.png) [@aah31415](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/aah31415)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 9:06am UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/ideas-for-the-macroscopic-stage-put-your-ideas-in-this-thread/8062/43 "2025-01-15T09:06:49Z")
They still can’t survive with no sunlight through. ---
**Author:** ![doomlightning](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/doomlightning/32/14892_2.png) [@doomlightning](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/doomlightning)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 9:24am UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/ideas-for-the-macroscopic-stage-put-your-ideas-in-this-thread/8062/44 "2025-01-15T09:24:40Z")
I who learn botanics for his works in the labs can answer this: Plants even in important set stone in energy pyramid, if the right condisone, they can survive without sunlight for some time and over time even lose they chloroplase that whats happen to the most devistaed plant pest: The Oomycete - consider close relative of the diatoms that act like fungi: > **[Oomycete](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oomycete)** > > The Oomycetes (/ˌoʊ.əˈmaɪsiːts/), or Oomycota, form a distinct phylogenetic lineage of fungus-like eukaryotic microorganisms within the Stramenopiles. They are filamentous and heterotrophic, and can reproduce both sexually and asexually. Sexual reproduction of an oospore is the result of contact between hyphae of male antheridia and female oogonia; these spores can overwinter and are known as resting spores.: 409  Asexual reproduction involves the formation of chlamydospores and sporangia, Oom... Cistanche - a fully parasitic plant of plants > **[Cistanche](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cistanche)** > > See Text > Haemodoron Rchb. 1828 > Cistanche is a worldwide genus of holoparasitic desert plants in the family Orobanchaceae. They lack chlorophyll and obtain nutrients and water from the host plants whose roots they parasitize. They are often known as desert hyacinths. ![554](https://thrivecommunity-uploads.b-cdn.net/original/2X/7/72a7e972e6d6bb97dd11fceee7771598cf384a41.jpeg) All the Lampenflora type of plants > **[Lampenflora](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lampenflora)** > > Lampenflora, also known in English as lamp-flora or lamp flora are autotrophic lifeforms present in natural or artificial caves associated with permanently installed lighting. Lampenflora are a problem with respect to the conservation of cave features, artworks, and fauna, and consequently their presence in caves can be referred to by the terms green sickness and la maladie verte. > The term "lampenflora" has come to English from German. It was coined by botanist Klaus Dobat in the 1960s, and just... ---
**Author:** ![Poodelicus](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/poodelicus/32/14372_2.png) [@Poodelicus](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/Poodelicus)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 10:17am UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/ideas-for-the-macroscopic-stage-put-your-ideas-in-this-thread/8062/45 "2025-01-15T10:17:29Z")
Consider this: Brown Algae can survive up to 115 feet below the waters surface, and Red Algae can survive at a depth of over 800 feet down, where humans cannot perceive light at all. The type of photosynthesis used by Red Algae allows some primitive plants to acquire enough sunlight to live DEEP inside caves. ---
**Author:** ![aah31415](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/aah31415/32/16247_2.png) [@aah31415](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/aah31415)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 10:22am UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/ideas-for-the-macroscopic-stage-put-your-ideas-in-this-thread/8062/46 "2025-01-15T10:22:39Z")
I guess so. But don’t expect them to thrive in caves where no light can get in at all. ---
**Author:** ![hhyyrylainen](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/hhyyrylainen/32/32_2.png) [@hhyyrylainen](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/hhyyrylainen)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 10:52am UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/ideas-for-the-macroscopic-stage-put-your-ideas-in-this-thread/8062/47 "2025-01-15T10:52:52Z")
Excuse me, this is a scientific game we are making, so I cannot tolerate this invasion by weird units that aren’t part of the SI units. In case it isn’t obvious, I’m partly joking. ---
**Author:** ![aah31415](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/aah31415/32/16247_2.png) [@aah31415](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/aah31415)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 11:20am UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/ideas-for-the-macroscopic-stage-put-your-ideas-in-this-thread/8062/48 "2025-01-15T11:20:44Z")
There is no rule banning the eagle units… Will it be possible to develop flight in macroscopic? ---
**Author:** ![hhyyrylainen](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/hhyyrylainen/32/32_2.png) [@hhyyrylainen](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/hhyyrylainen)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 12:22pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/ideas-for-the-macroscopic-stage-put-your-ideas-in-this-thread/8062/49 "2025-01-15T12:22:20Z")
> [@aah31415](#): > > There is no rule banning the eagle units… But there _can_ be one ---
**Author:** ![aah31415](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/aah31415/32/16247_2.png) [@aah31415](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/aah31415)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 1:04pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/ideas-for-the-macroscopic-stage-put-your-ideas-in-this-thread/8062/50 "2025-01-15T13:04:54Z")
So you’ve considered adding such a ban? ---
**Author:** ![Poodelicus](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/poodelicus/32/14372_2.png) [@Poodelicus](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/Poodelicus)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 1:38pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/ideas-for-the-macroscopic-stage-put-your-ideas-in-this-thread/8062/51 "2025-01-15T13:38:35Z")
Feet? Its the measurement the article I read used. > **[‘Plants’ of a Different Color | Science and the Sea](https://www.scienceandthesea.org/articles/201102/plants-different-color)** > > In the ocean’s dim depths, it’s not easy being green; that’s why some plant-like organisms use different pigments to survive.{mosimage}Like terrestrial plants, marine phytoplankton and algae use the pigment chlorophyll to absorb light energy.... Perhaps you prefer this? [https://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/explorations/03mex/background/seaweeds/seaweeds.html](https://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/explorations/03mex/background/seaweeds/seaweeds.html) It says they can grow up to 295 Meters down. Which is deeper than the other article. ---
**Author:** ![hhyyrylainen](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/hhyyrylainen/32/32_2.png) [@hhyyrylainen](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/hhyyrylainen)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 1:48pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/ideas-for-the-macroscopic-stage-put-your-ideas-in-this-thread/8062/52 "2025-01-15T13:48:56Z")
Any article not using scientific units is very questionable source in my opinion. Like if they didn’t even bother to use proper units, what else are they doing wrong? ---
**Author:** ![Poodelicus](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/poodelicus/32/14372_2.png) [@Poodelicus](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/Poodelicus)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 1:57pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/ideas-for-the-macroscopic-stage-put-your-ideas-in-this-thread/8062/53 "2025-01-15T13:57:24Z")
For the record, there are currently 38 posts on this forum that use “feet” as a measurement, not a body part. And I am happy to post links to each and every one of them. And that is only partially a joke as well. ---
**Author:** ![hhyyrylainen](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/hhyyrylainen/32/32_2.png) [@hhyyrylainen](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/hhyyrylainen)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 2:04pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/ideas-for-the-macroscopic-stage-put-your-ideas-in-this-thread/8062/54 "2025-01-15T14:04:42Z")
I either have just quickly read it determined it was whatever (so I wasn’t involved in the ongoing discussion), or I didn’t have energy to bother saying anything. Also I’ve already apparently expressed my dislike of the units back in 2022 already: ![kuva](https://thrivecommunity-uploads.b-cdn.net/original/2X/5/5181e8fc400b18ffcc97ca5e52d9689b8db81f49.png) ---
**Author:** ![doomlightning](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/doomlightning/32/14892_2.png) [@doomlightning](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/doomlightning)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 2:07pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/ideas-for-the-macroscopic-stage-put-your-ideas-in-this-thread/8062/55 "2025-01-15T14:07:46Z")
I am agree with hhy about not reliable info source. that site its for me, one who work with scientifically articles in weekly basis its for me and form my moderator, not seen like a good enough for some real science This how real one looks like: [https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.0503674102](https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.0503674102) " An obligately photosynthetic bacterial anaerobe from a deep-sea hydrothermal vent", and ARTICLES about some possible discovery about photosythsis on deep-sea hydrothermal vent that better info from what have u send and its from reliable info that I can accsas from my university 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![aah31415](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/aah31415/32/16247_2.png) [@aah31415](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/aah31415)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 2:21pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/ideas-for-the-macroscopic-stage-put-your-ideas-in-this-thread/8062/56 "2025-01-15T14:21:43Z")
Well there’s no way these bacteria are making their way into Thrive. ---
**Author:** ![Poodelicus](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/poodelicus/32/14372_2.png) [@Poodelicus](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/Poodelicus)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 2:32pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/ideas-for-the-macroscopic-stage-put-your-ideas-in-this-thread/8062/57 "2025-01-15T14:32:04Z")
> **[SCMS39\_Lang\_16.pdf](https://repository.si.edu/bitstream/handle/10088/21634/SCMS39_Lang_16.pdf)** > > 1382 B It says its from “Smithsonian Contributions to Marine Science” and comes with 36 references at the bottom. Its says Algae can grow up to 295 meters down. And it doesn’t mention needing chemotrophy to do it. Edit: > [@doomlightning](#): > > " An obligately photosynthetic bacterial anaerobe from a deep-sea hydrothermal vent" While it wasn’t quite the plant I was talking about, I have actually been looking for an article confirming the existence of plants that grow in vents without needing sunlight, so thank you. ---
**Author:** ![aah31415](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/aah31415/32/16247_2.png) [@aah31415](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/aah31415)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 2:34pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/ideas-for-the-macroscopic-stage-put-your-ideas-in-this-thread/8062/58 "2025-01-15T14:34:55Z")
How much light is down there when compared with the surface? ---
**Author:** ![Poodelicus](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/poodelicus/32/14372_2.png) [@Poodelicus](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/Poodelicus)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 2:37pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/ideas-for-the-macroscopic-stage-put-your-ideas-in-this-thread/8062/59 "2025-01-15T14:37:11Z")
It has a lot of “blue” light, although not enough for a human eye to detect. Its actually requires a different type of photosynthesis than what green plants use, which is another problem for a different day. The devs may not be interested in branching out photosynthesis at this time, but, when Aware comes around, modders or future devs that have not joined yet might. ---
**Author:** ![aah31415](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/aah31415/32/16247_2.png) [@aah31415](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/aah31415)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 2:40pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/ideas-for-the-macroscopic-stage-put-your-ideas-in-this-thread/8062/60 "2025-01-15T14:40:54Z")
That’s probably why these plants are red and not green… [Previous page](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/ideas-for-the-macroscopic-stage-put-your-ideas-in-this-thread/8062.md?page=2) [Next page](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/ideas-for-the-macroscopic-stage-put-your-ideas-in-this-thread/8062.md?page=4)