Immortality talk

i will work on a system that can be tested IRL, but a major part of how it works requires me to fully explain the machine that i am making a theoretical model of for my thesis paper, so the explanation will have to come after i submit that to the college i’m looking into going to.
things to look into tho
vapour-compression heat pumps
magnetocaloric effect
electrets and doping
pseudo-fluids and magnetic pseudo-monopoles[1] as well


  1. created by arranging magnets with either the north or south pole facing out on the surface of a sphere, based on the vertices of a platonic solid ↩︎

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Pretty sure infinite energy sources go against the laws our universe functions on.
Like it or not, no matter how efficient do you get, some energy will be lost when trying to delay the inevidable. Over many trillions of years these losses will slowly fizzle out all the stars a galaxy has to offer.
It doesn’t matter if you overclock people with all the best solutions the biological world has come up with, they won’t be able to function forever in the void heat death will bring about.

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This is the point I’m talking about, you still reason as if “infinite” meant just “very long”. With an infinite lifespan, all of the things you mentioned will not only become boring, but you will start to hate them after having done them for so many times.

There aren’t infinite possible games, because of the simple fact that games are composed of finite elements, and even if a games goes on forever, it would have infinitely repeating elements because it is still composed of finite elements.

Even your own senses can only perceive a finite amount of things: eyes can only see a finite amount of colors and their position, as such, given enough time you will literally perceive the same images; this still applies even if you upgrade your senses, because the universe itself is composed of finite elements, and as such any infinite set will simply result in repetition.

It doesn’t matter if it takes a number of years so big that there is no name for it, an immortal is guaranteed to live for more than a billion times that amount.

This is also being generous, because I’m assuming that you need to experience all elements of a set billions of times for you to get bored of the set, even though real life teaches us that we can get bored of things even if we didn’t experience all possible variations of that thing billion of times.

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It’s almost like humans were not given tools by evolution to prosper mentally for times infinite…

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literally just cycle through things.
if you can’t do things multiple times, thousands of years apart, or find a hobby, that’s a you problem.
and people generally don’t just get bored of things they find relaxing.

given the fact that a computer can have any number of bits arranged in any number of ways, the amount of combinations of bits that act completely different, and make an actually playable game, would necessarily be infinite.
with a single computer using a specified amount of storage space, it may not be infinite, but it is still Very large.
and again.
if you can’t find something that you can’t get bored of, that’s a you problem.

except it literally takes several times the estimated lifespan of the universe for it to be capable of creating even a bubble that even mimics something that exists in a finite universe.
and also, we literally don’t know whether the universe is finite or infinite, just that the observable universe is finite.

and any immortal that’s not an irreprehensible idiot would know that there are 5 things you can’t just ‘get bored of’
your hobbies
people you like
challenges in an area you are interested in
special interests
making things with your hands

and not only would it be very stupid for any sapient species to be able to get bored of those, but being able to get bored of those 5 things would cause either severe mental health issues, or your tribe to be a lot less successful

and, i can name at least 6 hobbies that nobody gets bored of, if they were ever interested in them.
knitting
sewing
pottery
exercise
sports
harvesting materials from plants or animals

if you can get bored of all of those, congratulations, you would not survive past 30 in paleolithic or neolithic times. or even the copper or bronze ages, and you would likely get kicked out of your tribe before you manage to reproduce if you existed during those times.

and also, if you’re able to get bored of things you find interesting for over a decade, that’s a you problem.
and only means that you aren’t fit to be truly immortal.
not that nobody is fit to be truly immortal.

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Isn’t it like that nothing can enter the observable universe from “outside” but anything can leave it (but then never return)?

it’s more that the size of the observable universe is limited by how much time has passed since the universe was opaque
the farthest back we can see in time is the formation of the CMBR,which was pretty much at the start of the universe.
and as the universe is only 13.7 billion years old, 13.7 billion light years is the farthest light would be capable of reaching us from, if you ignore the reason the CMBR exists.

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Isn’t this expansion of the universe supposed to eventually result in local groups of galaxies becoming their own “observable universes” in a very long time?

assuming that the force of dark energy remains the same.
if it gets weaker over time though, eventually gravity will overpower it, causing the observable universe to have a black hole that contains all that did not resist being pulled towards the universal center of mass.
that is, assuming the universe is finite
and it’s extremely easy to dodge stuff in space, so you can literally just avoid the big crunch, and then make a probe to check the inside of the black hole, after it goes in along its axis of rotation, rather than perpendicular to it, to check if there is a universe or exotic matter inside
and that’s if we haven’t already tested that theory by the time the universe ends.
and, if you wanna avoid the big crunch, you literally just need to orbit the spot where the black hole will form, and be capable of avoiding stars and planets.

and theoretically, the observable universe should already be inside a black hole several times its diameter, due to its mass

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How do you avoid it? Pretty sure space can shrink faster than any spaceship is ever going travel. All would become a part of the dark sphere. If you try orbiting where the BH will form, the force of gravity will eventually pull you in too no matter what you try to do. Then spagettification awaits.

space doesn’t contract during the big crunch, it just stops expanding. gravitational acceleration does the rest.
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just use an alcubierre drive to decrease the effects of gravity on your spaceship if you’re worried abt that

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Alcub drive is magic. Exotic matter does not exist.

it has not been proven to exist.
that is not the same as not existing.
and according to the same theory that says rotating black holes should contain universes, they should also contain exotic matter during the time it takes to pass between universes.

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Even if you got to these universes within black holes, how would you get out?

either, time travel, or you go forwards through time, into the universe inside the black hole.
make sure you got sheilds that can protect you from a plasma as hot as the big bang though, cause you will exit at the start of that universe

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I have a feeling if any of this were to happen some alien civ would’ve already used this knowledge to expand their wrath across the whole cosmos…

the universe is only 13.7 billion years old, and there is no evidence to suggest that anything from the parent universe made it through as anything but a quark-gluon plasma.
there has been basically no time for such a civilization to form yet, and again, based on what we can observe, any civs from the last universe either went into a different black hole, or got vaporized

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Wouldn’t this mean using black holes to visit new universes, if that’s even how they work, is unviable to actually colonize these universes?

depends.
mainly on how long before the end of the universe that you discover how to make something able to withstand the conditions of the big bang.

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Also how would people in a “parent universe” even be able to tell that there are other universes within black holes and not just gravitywells that hold nothing of value within?