Moving to Linux Thread

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@Deathwake

ubuntu. ubuntu is a corporate distro, which means it can’t be trusted, made by canonical, who are a mixed bag at best

What do you think of linux mint in general? And do you think that arch is really that hard as people say it is?

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Deathwake did say that

@Deathwake

arch’s community is insane

@Deathwake

For why arch’s community is insane, more or less the vibes of building your entire setup from scratch are unmatched

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She also said that 80% of arch users wear strippy femboy socks.

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Deathwake didn’t mention she was one of those people though…

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@Trappist-1e

What do you think of linux mint in general?

fantastic for starting off, i personally think the DE is ugly and install others at some point, but it works out of the box really well.

@Trappist-1e

And do you think that arch is really that hard as people say it is?

IDK what people say but i suspect a lot of it is exaggeration. do not expect help from the arch community, expect to break your setup, but it is a good OS, it does work and can be installed by a normal person.

@aah31415

Deathwake didn’t mention she was one of those people though…

this is because i only own short stripey socks and long solid color socks- if i weren’t lazy and didn’t have a bunch of stuff to spend all my money on the last two months i would buy the C programming book and a pile of femboy socks. it’d probably incentivize me to spend more time ricing bc i could take funny femboy-styled selfies. i never make my pc look interesting though sadly

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@Deathwake

i never make my pc look interesting though sadly

Well utility is better than visuals I suppose?

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@Deathwake

i personally think the DE is ugly

i was just considering DE (because i saw that mint is based from ubuntu and yourself said ubuntu is evil) so i just googled and - yeah this thing is a eyesore
i could prob fix it with kde, right??

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Pop_OS is also based off of Ubuntu… So I guess all ubuntu-based OSes go to the bin?

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any distro with (name)OS reminds me of all of theses scratch operating systems where it is just a pretty ui simulator (including my own… lmao)

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Isn’t Linux the OS or how does it really work like?

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from my small understanding it is
linux/gnu is the OS, and there is several differents distribuitions (distros) of it

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But why do some distros call themselves OSes?

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Linux is the kernel part of the OS. The distribution is the entirety of the OS.

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

I see. Still seems a bit weird that some OSes seem to incorporate the OS into their names (like Pop_OS).

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after some very careful consideration, i decided that if i even managed to get a pair of pendrives, i would use linux mint DE + KDE + flathub.

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Does that remove enough of ubuntu downsides?

[Deathwake (i nuked zenzone and will never let him forget it)]

mint with KDE totally works (and very well) though honestly if you’re confident changing the DE yourself you’re experienced enough to use debian, which has, in my opinion, better vibes than mint (both are equally capable though)

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

Would you say debian is better for beginners than mint?

[Deathwake (i nuked zenzone and will never let him forget it)]

I’ve been doing some serious linux experimentation lately. I’ve switch to an encrypted root and an UKI for booting. Tried to sign the stupid thing but uefi hates me. I also have a backup system now, I learned how btrfs subvols work, i still hate them.

The important thing is ZFS. ZFS is so cool. I’m so depressed that openZFS is stuck with stupid license issues and isn’t on up-to-date kernels. I got void linux and later an arch install to boot on a ZFS root, using the AMAZING zfs boot menu, and it’s so utterly insanely awesomely zero-config that it could be my whole efi partition. Sadly, my main OS is on btrfs, and going to zfs would mean loosing my up-to-date kernel with support for everything. I could maybe try compiling my kernel but that sounds really weird, even for me.

I also tried gentoo. That was so godforsaken slow it made me want to pack my bags, throw away every other operating system, and move to void linux full time ^[1] but it genuinely delivers on the selling point that it is an OS for everyone, in specific opposition to arch, which is an OS for arch developers. unfortunately, I am much more like an arch developer than every single other person ever, so i’ll be sticking with arch.

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1. (void linux is so fast i found it worth my time to write shell scripts to enable services for me, which is a lot of commitment for an OS which couldn’t be bothered to include a few quality of life scripts) ↩︎

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

Is void linux also for beginners?