32 GB of VRAM is still larger than 16 GB. That is unless AMD does release a 32 GB VRAM card this year.
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How high do you estimate the probability of that happening?
Are you planning on needing that much? Because the 7900 XTX has 24 GB of VRAM and the only consumer GPU with more is 5090. And thatโs a very expensive GPU especially thanks to scalpers. Are you planning on buying that?
Even the 5080 has only 16 GB, which is pretty much an insult to gamers by Nvidia: https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/1hr8sq9/now_everyone_is_mad_at_the_rtx_5080_having_16gb/
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I wonder just how higher will these GB counts go over our lifetimesโฆ I can guess into the Terabytes?
Maybeeeโฆ very unlikely. I think our current raster-raytrace-ML-mix could only every use maybe 256 GB of VRAM ever, and thatโs quite extreme. I think itโs possible weโd invent more VRAM hungry rendering mixes but tbh all of our strategies weโve ever invented are bandwidth limited, Iโd expect a lot more bandwidth increase than raw VRAM boosts. Kinda like with CPUs the original i7 had 8 mbs of cache, a 9800x3d has 96MB of l3 cache + 8 mb of l2 .I donโt know if thats a good predictor logic because cpus are very different but I can imagine some wild memory architectures getting spotlighted well before anyone tries putting a TB in a single GPU. Datacenter AI GPUSโฆ? Yes theyโll do that as soon as OpenAI asks Nvidia to make them one, but currently itโs just not cost effective.
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Despite all odds, the AI bubble is yet to have caved inโฆ
Well, it looks like AMD still ended up losing their opportunity to hit back at Nvidia since they also delivered a paper launch. Also, they decided not to make a top notch GPU like the RX 7900 XTX, which is another missed opportunity. What is wrong with the Radeon team?
belgium Radeon vs Chad Nvidia
It looks like v_irgin is censored.
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Pretty sure there isnโt much of a reason for it not to be censored in a 13+ evo game forum.
My future workstation/PC:
CPU: AMD Ryzen Threadripper 7960X
SSD: 8 TB M.2 PCIe Gen 5.0 from any company willing to make one
GPU1: AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT (probably from Asus)
GPU2: Nvidia RTX 5090 FE
RAM: 64 GB (4 * 16 GB)
MBD: Any
Case: Lian-Li DK07
PSU: Any Fully Modular
Iโm planning to watercool my build, but Iโll start with aircooling to figure out how to setup my dual GPUs on Fedora.
Budget Estimation: 12,000$CDN Maximum
That likely means Iโll have to wait till Christmas to make it, that is if I get a higher salary on a new job.
Also, why didnโt AMD make their own card this time?
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What are you going to use the second GPU for?
I guess to be fair after trying various AI stuff over the past month, I do see the point in like putting together a second Linux box and using it as a home server thatโs capable of running AI workloads. The reason why I said second box is that Iโm kind of doubtful that it is reasonable to put so much high power GPUs into a single box as the power supply will need to be monstrous, the cooling extremely well done and, well you did spec out a Threadripper but thatโs the only way to get full 16x PCI-e lanes for both GPUs.
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The second GPU will be for AI workloads or sometimes for a Windows VM when a game doesnโt work with Proton (if the EULA allows it). Iโm using PC Partpicker (Canada), which has always reminded me when the PSU didnโt have enough pins or didnโt have the right ones. Also, what do you mean by a box? You mean a second PC?
EDIT: Iโve heard that the RTX 50 series only have access to the open-source kernel module and not to the proprietary driver.
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Seeing that the PC is planned to be watercooled, I can imagine that it will generate quite the amount of heat for such a solution to be necessary long-termโฆ
Though itโs not as expensive as helium/nitrogen cooling.
You need a case with a ton of airflow, otherwise both GPUs will thermal throttle due to not being able to get rid of the heat that builds up inside the case.
Thatโs probably untrue as I havenโt seen anything about that.
This is not a thing for computers at all. At least in terms of consumer hardware. So bringing this up is pretty much pointless as it couldnโt happen any case.
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Ah not with that attitude. If you have a 12000 budget iโd barely consider that consumer anyways (IK workstations donโt really have anything more than watercooling either and 12000 is perfectly moderate for a workstation but whatever).
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Do you think watercooling will become more popular in the future? Perhaps even getting a chance to challenge/topple aircooling?
With my intended PC case, that wonโt be a problem. Plus my computer is inside my basement, which is always cold.
The RTX 5090 has Blackwell architecture and thus needs the open-source kernel module to function on Linux.
It already challenges air cooling, but it needs more maintenance than air cooling. You need to replace the water coolant every 6-12 months. In terms of popularity, Iโm pretty sure itโll stay the same.
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I can imagine that requires temporarily deconstructing the entire computer, right?
That depends on the coolant you use. Most water coolants are colored and are either than translucent or solid (opaque). Solid coolants often form small lumps over time and you need to clean your waterblocks if you used a solid coolant. Normally, you need to drain the entire system with the drain valve before you can do just that.
And for the record, Iโm planning to use EKWB parts for water cooling because I love supporting companies that donโt pay their employees.
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Is solid coolant like ice and stuff?
(Also I hope that second part is satireโฆ)
No, itโs just distilled water with an opaque colorant. Solid is synonym for opaque.
Itโs almost satire. I donโt like the fact that employees were unpaid, but EKWB produces the best looking water cooling parts.
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