Space whales

[50gens]

@Abominable

And how would a space whale with no arms make a Dyson sphere?

By dyson sphere I don’t mean putting oneill cylinders or solar panels around the star, the species itself can already use solar power^[1]. I mean “cover your star with members of your species”

@Abominable

How are you even going to get it in orbit?

@50gens

2. Geysers

@Deathwake

My earlier post mentioned that some moons of gas giants have geysers with the strength to blast a life form into space. Those moons also happen to be theorized to have liquid water oceans for mantels. These oceans may have life, and that which lives in the crust may be quite resilient. Think water bears. And protists. A geyser could send them into space.

A geyser can send a large creature too. It can use a parachute to increase drag while standing in a geyser

@50gens

3. Rockets

If humans can make rockets can go to space, why can’t nature? In a planet with lower gravity, rockets would be much more useful, since you could actually lift yourself.

@50gens

@Deus

Why evolve some advanced propulsion movement system when you can just evolve a wing-like structure from limbs?

The species can have an extra lung which it no longer uses, and repurpose it

@50gens

Imagine a jellyfish moving in air (not always, just when it wants to jump), pulling air from above and sending below like how our digestive tracks have two openings. It could later swich to carrying fuel instead of relying on musclepower to move air.

@50gens

If creatures launch themselves into air to make long travels(to upper atmosphere or space), they wouldn’t have to keep moving body parts like fliers or runners, it would make sense to hibernate/sleep to not waste energy. Low energy consuption=>photosynthesis

@TeaKing

the achievemnts here dont really have to be possible/realistic

An achievement that can’t be added would be something like this

• Unlucky: Be the unluckist person to have ever played thrive

An achievement that won’t be added would be something like this

• Natural rebar: Make a species that has metal bones or exoskeleton

56 minutes into the 25th thrive podcast, they said there will not be metalic tissues.

There isn’t “absolutely more trouble waiting for any animal that tries to adapt to the conditions of space” that I don’t deserve to know. Until you say what is it that I misinterpreted, the burden of proof is on you.

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1. unless it found a radioactive chunk to feed upon ↩︎

[fralegend015 (Shroudmaster)]

@50gens

Until you say what is it that I misinterpreted

I already told you what you misinterpreted.

[TeaKing (The modTEArator)]

Wait
Why did you quote me?

[50gens]

@fralegend015

This “response” from 50gens completely ignores the counter points and when he “addresses” them he just misinterpretes them.

It doesn’t even deserve a response more articolate than “you are wrong”.

so is it everything? i see nothing that is misinterpreted

@TeaKing

Why did you quote me?

It is you who said what you said.
I wrote the last sentence for fralegend015

[fralegend015 (Shroudmaster)]

@50gens

so is it everything?

Yes.

@50gens

i see nothing that is misinterpreted

That means that you are doing it on purpose.

[TeaKing (The modTEArator)]

Im quite confused on whats even being discussed

[50gens]

the devs don’t want to put space whales because it complicates how stages work (space stage starting when you first go to space) so they ask questions that show why it is impossible, but every question has its obvious answer, meanwhile @willow fills the thread with troll questions (“didn’t i say in a goldilocks zone”) so that the devs can lock the thread like the underwater discussions, @Abominable asks the same questions again and again, I link my previous answers, @fralegend015 is convinced i speak nonesense

[fralegend015 (Shroudmaster)]

@50gens

@fralegend015 is convinced i speak nonesense

I am still to be proven wrong.

[50gens]

From now on, if you don’t ask a spesific question, I will ignore you.

[hhyyrylainen]

@50gens you are the underwater proponent version in this discussion. So please keep that in mind as this discussion is turning bad pretty quickly.

[50gens]

Wow, false analogy and ad hominem at the same time.

[fralegend015 (Shroudmaster)]

@50gens

ad hominem

Not an ad hominem since he didn’t use that to disprove you.

@50gens

false analogy

It wasn’t an analogy, it was a direct comparision.

[50gens]

@fralegend015

he didn’t use that to disprove you

But he used comparison to the underwater thread to discredit me, but I am not the one saying hydrothermal vents again and again, @Deus doesn’t read my answer to pressure, repeats @Buckly 's words that it is hard even for modern spacecraft to escape earth (noone says space whales can exist in super earths) and @Abominable reads absolutely nothing I write, but I am the bad guy who is obviously wrong.

You know what, I’d prefer to stay on topic too, but I am unable to answer your (aswerable) claims like the comment section in reddit, and we bury all the important stuff.

[BurgeonBlas]

Life in space could arise quite easily: Start at a life-bearing moon with some sort of extreme desert algae similar to D. radiodurans.Some disruption throws the moon at its planet, and tidal forces rip it up. The extremophilic desert algae survives on in the new ring system it finds itself in, using photosynthesis and carbon from minerals to grow and reproduce

Complex life isn’t going to happen this way, though, seeing as the rings will dissappear rather quickly. Depending on what the original species are like, the most advanced life you’d get in rings would be on the level of a simplified placozoon

[50gens]

Doesn’t algea need to be in water, wouldn’t water evaporate in the ring system where there isn’t enough pressure?

[BurgeonBlas]

Not necessarily. Any life in space would need some way to hold water inside itself, and any water expended in photosynthesis could be regained using aerobic respiration with the oxygen from photosynthesis. They could also obtain extra water from minerals in the ring, allowing for growth and reproduction

[50gens]

So I assume there are these microbes, they stick to ice or minerals with hydrogen and oxygen and they have liquid water in them. Is it possible?^[1]

@Deus

Even water bears for all of their resilience can only survive short-term exposure to space (32% of water bears exposed to space died after 10 days), and even then, those who survived only did so because they went dormant.

And they couldn’t become complex you say? Why wouldn’t complex life survive, but simple life would?^[2]

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1. how would they stay liquid, how would they move? ↩︎

2. you may say, only the simple life survived the moon being ripped up. Both large species and microbes can end up in rings with geysers (without moons exploding) but the solution I found to radiation and pressure only works in large creatures (temperature isn’t a problem) ↩︎

[C009 (Least favourite developer)]

@50gens

Why wouldn’t complex life survive, but simple life would?

complex ones need more resources like food (i think)

And even if you photosythesise you still need resources for your cells to build up and for reproducing, and without reproducing your species will go extinct

[50gens]

@C009

complex ones need more resources like food

The total carbon used by all living things on Earth is 5.5 x 10^11 kilograms. The mass of Saturn’s rings is 1.5 x 10^19 kilograms which is mostly ice, the surface of Ceres (in the asteroid belt) is 20% carbon, if a gas giant had rings as massive as Saturn and with the same composition as Ceres, it could have life with the carbon mass of 3*10^18 kilograms, or 5.4 million times that of Earth (not considering other elements).

[C009 (Least favourite developer)]

keep in mind that organism has to somehow move from rock to rock once one gets depleted, and why would species develop precise propulsion (edit: to move in space) considering it comes from water pools of a moon?