# Technology

**URL:** https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/technology/2045
**Category:** Science!
**Created:** [August 23, 2019, 10:24pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/technology/2045 "2019-08-23T22:24:35Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Gotor](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/gotor/32/2782_2.png) [@Gotor](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/Gotor)
#### Post date: [September 11, 2019, 1:27pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/technology/2045/47 "2019-09-11T13:27:11Z")

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I think, you need say about conscious in [this theme](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/the-moral-questions-thread-the-second/42).

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### Author: ![blackjacksike](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/blackjacksike/32/7094_2.png) [@blackjacksike](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/blackjacksike)
#### Post date: [September 11, 2019, 10:46pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/technology/2045/48 "2019-09-11T22:46:13Z")

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Here are interesting videos about consciousness :

But a simple program, that simply prints “I am sentient” doesn’t make the computer sentient. Neural-like AI, however can be somewhat aware. To know if something is aware, it needs to have a behaviour, a pattern and even to take account of its surrounding environment. So are AIs aware? Maybe. But are they conscious of their own existence? That, we will probably never know. Most AIs were designed to be aware of the outside (environment), but not of their inside (themselves). So, when a simple AI tells you that it is sentient, it doesn’t mean that it’s true, because that’s what it pushes you to think, i.e. it’s aware of the outside, but is it aware about its own existence? We don’t know, for no AI have showed to be aware of itself (inside) yet.

You know, sometimes (especially when I was younger), I feel like nothing is real, that all I see is an illusion. Then, I ask myself : “Do I even exist?”. Quite a while ago, I was idle, then, I don’t know why, but I felt myself getting out of my own body, I closed my eyes and I was seeing myself being idle… and that’s when I suddenly woke up from that “vision” (it wasn’t a dream, it was more of a ‘mental’ experience). If you see that someone or something can question its own existence, it means that it is conscious.

HAL-9000 from 2001 was probably conscious, in a way (it regularly referred itself as a perfect and flawless machine (narcissism is a proof of awareness, for it proves that it’s aware of its own existence spiritually speaking)).

Emotions can be proof to consciousness, but we still don’t know if a simple machine can feel an emotion or only fakes/simulates it.

Here is an interesting link about machine learning : [https://experiments.withgoogle.com/collection/ai](https://experiments.withgoogle.com/collection/ai)

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### Author: ![Steve](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/steve/32/5821_2.png) [@Steve](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/Steve)
#### Post date: [September 12, 2019, 1:23pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/technology/2045/49 "2019-09-12T13:23:13Z")

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Has anyone else noticed that we really like Kurzgesagt on this forum?

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### Author: ![Magic8Ball04](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/magic8ball04/32/3576_2.png) [@Magic8Ball04](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/Magic8Ball04)
#### Post date: [September 12, 2019, 1:26pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/technology/2045/50 "2019-09-12T13:26:37Z")

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Who wouldn’t? It’s an amazing channel. Plus, I really like the narrators voice. By the way has anyone seen the new one, The Egg? It’s different, but really good. I’ve heard of this philosophy before and I think the video really encapsulated it.

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### Author: ![Steve](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/steve/32/5821_2.png) [@Steve](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/Steve)
#### Post date: [September 12, 2019, 1:44pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/technology/2045/51 "2019-09-12T13:44:27Z")

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Which would be better

_Poll ([view on site](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/technology/2045/51))_

This is in relation to inter car communication and course / speed readjustment to ensure fastest traffic flow.

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### Author: ![Magic8Ball04](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/magic8ball04/32/3576_2.png) [@Magic8Ball04](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/Magic8Ball04)
#### Post date: [September 12, 2019, 1:47pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/technology/2045/52 "2019-09-12T13:47:23Z")

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Both have ups and downs. One individual AI is superior in most ways. Traffic would be less common, but if the AI became corrupted everything would go to 🇧🇪. Individual AI would work in much the same way, but might not see the big picture and just look for cars around it, instead of them communicating information.

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### Author: ![Omicron](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/omicron/32/3618_2.png) [@Omicron](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/Omicron)
#### Post date: [September 12, 2019, 3:01pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/technology/2045/53 "2019-09-12T15:01:06Z")

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The egg as a story has existed for a long time, Kurzgesagt just animated it and added the voice over.

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### Author: ![anon2545437](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/8e8cbc/32.png) [@anon2545437](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/anon2545437)
#### Post date: [September 12, 2019, 5:33pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/technology/2045/54 "2019-09-12T17:33:31Z")

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I need an explanation on why The Egg was put on Kurzgesagt’s channel. Kurzgesagt is a more scientific channel. ???

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### Author: ![OmnipotentFNarr](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/omnipotentfnarr/32/9555_2.png) [@OmnipotentFNarr](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/OmnipotentFNarr)
#### Post date: [September 12, 2019, 7:57pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/technology/2045/55 "2019-09-12T19:57:59Z")

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If you entrust a single AI for all cars, you’re basically asking for all the cars to be hacked simultaneously.

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### Author: ![blackjacksike](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/blackjacksike/32/7094_2.png) [@blackjacksike](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/blackjacksike)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2019, 1:23am UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/technology/2045/56 "2019-09-13T01:23:25Z")

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Just for the thematic of this thread, you listen to these musics :

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0r6C3z3TEKw)

I found out about the James Webb’s telescope, which will be launched in 2021 to help ourselves learn more about exoplanets’ atmosphere, study supernova and protoplanets formation, etc. I don’t know if it will be a kind of ‘space observatory’ or simply a telescope put into space, but I’m sure it will lead to a lot of scientific progress. Who knows, maybe the Universe will stop being silent… .

Here is where I got the term ‘James Webb’s telescope’ into my head.

> **[NASA’s Hubble Finds Water Vapor on Habitable-Zone Exoplanet for 1st Time -...](https://science.nasa.gov/missions/hubble/nasas-hubble-finds-water-vapor-on-habitable-zone-exoplanet-for-1st-time)**
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> Its size and surface gravity are much larger than Earth’s, and its radiation environment may be hostile, but a distant planet called K2-18b has captured the interest of scientists all over the world. For the first time, researchers have detected...

Here is the main page of the Webb telescope project.

> **[Webb Image Release- Webb Space Telescope GSFC/NASA](https://www.jwst.nasa.gov/)**
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> The Latest NASA Released Webb Image is featured on this page. The James Webb Space Telescope's revolutionary technology will study every phase of cosmic history—from within our solar system to the most distant observable galaxies in the early...

And here is finally a vr game on steam about the webb project.  
https://store.steampowered.com/widget/891960

> Thanks, and have fun! -gabeN

P.S.: From what I’ve heard, we don’t really see exoplanets clearly, apart from the fact that it is an object hiding the light of a star. Will the Webb telescope bypass that? Will it make it easier to see exoplanets?

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### Author: ![hhyyrylainen](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/hhyyrylainen/32/32_2.png) [@hhyyrylainen](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/hhyyrylainen)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2019, 5:35am UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/technology/2045/57 "2019-09-13T05:35:59Z")

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You are also asking all the security experts of _all_ the car companies to work on securing it.  
If it ever gets hacked it’s obviously bad, but if each car company has their own single AI, they might have really bad security practices (most companies that aren’t focused on software don’t know a whole lot about security, many don’t even acknowledge the fact that you need security specialists), making it much more common for cars to be hacked. So I think a central system that can coordinate all cars is much more beneficial (and maybe even much more secure) than having a bunch of different systems where the hackers can just pick the worst secured one and focus on breaching that.

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### Author: ![tjwhale](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/tjwhale/32/129_2.png) [@tjwhale](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/tjwhale)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2019, 1:52pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/technology/2045/58 "2019-09-13T13:52:52Z")

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I guess one option re AI is having a more modular approach. So for example each car could have it’s own ability to navigate and then there could also be a routing AI for each city (kind of like air traffic control) which just tells each one which routes to take.

I agree hacking is an issue however it’s probably less dangerous than letting other humans drive cars ha ha

Re the James Webb Space Telescope that thing is so risky, apparently it has 10 new technologies which haven’t been used in space before and there’s plenty of potential for the solar shield to fail to unfurl properly or for the mirrors not to open properly. Because they are moving it to the Lagrange point so it’s shielded by the Earth from the sun it means no repair missions are possible. I think it’s quite likely it will fail somehow (hubble needed a mission to repair it and Kepler’s guidance system failed for example) and will end up just being very expensive space junk.

However I would love it if it worked 🙂

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### Author: ![Magic8Ball04](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/magic8ball04/32/3576_2.png) [@Magic8Ball04](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/Magic8Ball04)
#### Post date: [October 6, 2019, 8:51pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/technology/2045/59 "2019-10-06T20:51:00Z")

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Is it currently possible to send data back it time?  
If not, one of two possibilities are true;

1. I was supposed to message 2021, 🇧🇪 see y’all then
2. I heard it in a creepypasta

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#### Post date: [October 7, 2019, 8:17pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/technology/2045/60 "2019-10-07T20:17:56Z")

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I read a story once where the characters had a chat client that could send messages to the past.  
But instead of telling the future to their past selves, they just fought with them selves. Also there were larger implications. Like if you see a message from future you, you will eventually have to type the message. and that brings up a whole bunch of problems with free will. And even if you did warn you successfully, nothing would change, because you already lived through the warning you. (If you know the story I am talking about. Do not speak to me about it.)

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### Author: ![blackjacksike](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/blackjacksike/32/7094_2.png) [@blackjacksike](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/blackjacksike)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2019, 8:36pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/technology/2045/61 "2019-12-23T20:36:16Z")

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Time to revive a thread! Mwahahahahahahaha! I will show you my omnipresence wrath! 😈

I’ve seen a mention of a possible communication technology named Li-Fi. It would actually use light as a means for comms tech. Does anyone know something more about it?

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### Author: ![hhyyrylainen](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/hhyyrylainen/32/32_2.png) [@hhyyrylainen](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/hhyyrylainen)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2019, 9:18pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/technology/2045/62 "2019-12-23T21:18:43Z")

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Yes. There’s even a wikipedia article:

> **[Li-Fi](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li-Fi)**
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> Li-Fi (short for light fidelity) is wireless communication technology, which utilizes light to transmit data and position between devices. The term was first introduced by Harald Haas during a 2011 TEDGlobal talk in Edinburgh.
> In technical terms, Li-Fi is a light communication system that is capable of transmitting data at high speeds over the visible light, ultraviolet, and infrared spectrums. In its present state, only LED lamps can be used for the transmission of visible light.
> In terms of i...

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### Author: ![TristanMisja](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/tristanmisja/32/9494_2.png) [@TristanMisja](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/TristanMisja)
#### Post date: [December 6, 2022, 5:52pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/technology/2045/63 "2022-12-06T17:52:47Z")

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Sorry for the BIG Necro, but I have something relevant I want to share.

AI probably cannot become sapient. Neural networks are essentially just collections of matrices that have operations done on them by a computer. It would be pretty silly to say that that can become sapient. AI could probably behave sapient, but as it exists now, probably cannot have a subjective experience.

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### Author: ![fralegend015](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/fralegend015/32/11835_2.png) [@fralegend015](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/fralegend015)
#### Post date: [December 6, 2022, 6:40pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/technology/2045/64 "2022-12-06T18:40:23Z")

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> [@TristanMisja](#):
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> Neural networks are essentially just collections of matrices that have operations done on them by a computer. It would be pretty silly to say that that can become sapient.

Literally doesn’t explain why it would be “pretty silly”.

Also, artificial neural network technology is modelled after how biological neural networks work.

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### Author: ![TristanMisja](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/tristanmisja/32/9494_2.png) [@TristanMisja](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/TristanMisja)
#### Post date: [December 6, 2022, 7:02pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/technology/2045/65 "2022-12-06T19:02:34Z")

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It’s silly because then any old computer program could become conscious. It doesn’t matter if they’re modeled after human brains, they still work completely differently.

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### Author: ![50gens](https://thrivecommunity-cdn.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/50gens/32/12205_2.png) [@50gens](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/u/50gens)
#### Post date: [December 6, 2022, 7:02pm UTC](https://community.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/t/technology/2045/66 "2022-12-06T19:02:45Z")

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Since neural networks copy neurons, there are 3 options.

1. We have consciousness. So does the AI, or at least when it becomes as complex as us, or starts having the same types of patterns as us

2. Consciousness is not caused by neurons firing, for example, our brains may actually be in a quantum superposition, one of the possible states they can be in is constantly being choosed by the “real consciousness” pulling the strings from behind

3. We don’t have consciousnessess. Life is VR world we all entered, and forgot that we did. In the real world, we are not made out of neurons.

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