I think this isn’t exactly a question of time, but rather of how said politics are discussed. For example, a discussion about the politics of the ancient world in a neutral, historical tone, would probably be fine, but someone arguing why the ancient Egyptian monarchy was better that democracy could ever be would be unacceptable.
should we make a new topic about how we should treat politics on the forum?
- yes, we should
- no, we should not
I already made a poll on whenever politics should be allowed sometime ago, people decided in it to keep the no politics anywhere rule.
Edit: here
hmmm i see
I don’t think we’ll be seeing a movement to allow political discussions anytime soon. If ever. The role of “Thrive Political Discussions” belonged to the #Humanities channel on TCDS prior to the channel being “muted forever” as hhyyrylainen said.
muting is just a personal thing so you don’t get notified of messages from a discord channel
the humanities channel is still active
and still has politics
Oh, I thought it meant that the channel was basically made unusable. Got it.
I agree, but it would be easier to not even do that much, right? So you just spew your BS for a ton of paragraphs without bothering to put any links to other sources backing you up at all.
Yeah, no. It’s just a personal thing so that the channel never shows for me as having new messages so that I don’t need to constantly check it to clear the new messages indicator on Discord.
For how long has TCDS even existed? Is it older than this forum?
iirc
it has existed since at least 2016
so before these forums
When was the previous forum established again?
This is the scary part, it would be easiest to do that, unless you have a source prepared and ready to go. I had my wikipedia articles nearly memorized because the american right loves lying and saying democrats tried to kill him. Music had their sources nearly memorized because that’s the sort of media they consume in their spare time, for fun or to be “informed.” Maybe not all of it, maybe some memorized just for arguments, but you have to like at least some of it. If you look at the sources they’re basically agreeing with all the BS they spewed. There is an entire media ecosystem made to produce those kinds of sources, not for use as sources, if that only secondarily, but to be consumed as news or entertainment. The American right (at least some of it, no true scotsman and all that, most moderate christian GOP folks are actually quite nice and sane aside from abortion) finds violent misogyny and often enough racism entertaining or funny. I know finland’s metal scene has a problem with that sort of people, so maybe become a metalhead if you want to get exposed the those worldviews. Or don’t, it’s not pleasant, they’re annoying.
I had no clue it was that old…
I think comparing systems could actually be okay so long as it’s not moralizing. If someone argues that in the ancient world the egyptians got a lot more done because they had absolutism and athans had democracy that could be an interesting discussion so long as no one says “and that’s the good guys” or “the modern world should be like that”
That’s enough analysis of a banned user.
In other news the forums has been having server issues for the past day or so.
It’s probably something only the server hosting company can fix as I see this kind of stuff in the logs:
[47206.047119] watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#1 stuck for 43s! [processor:3063]
[47206.047798] CPU#1 Utilization every 8s during lockup:
[47206.048298] #1: 0% system, 0% softirq, 0% hardirq, 8% idle
[47206.126100] #2: 1% system, 0% softirq, 0% hardirq, 2% idle
[47206.128941] #3: 0% system, 1% softirq, 0% hardirq, 18% idle
[47206.129389] #4: 1% system, 1% softirq, 0% hardirq, 61% idle
[47206.129800] #5: 1% system, 0% softirq, 0% hardirq, 26% idle
This is what I thought happened in the last few days with the forum
What we can really do is pray that everything will be fixed soon
Time for a new poll!
- today
- 1 day from now
- 2 days from now
- 3 days from now
- 4 days from now
- 5 days from now
- later
What is KDE and GNOME?
Frankly, I don’t have an opinion. The only nice thing would be if KDE made their multimonitor support work on a basic level like GNOME does.
PLEASE I need decent multimonitor KDE, Wayland makes everything better on that front but I want a bit more sanity.
Linux desktop environments. That might not mean anything to you either, but I’m not really qualified to explain Linux in a response.