THE NEW Miscellaneous Talk That Doesn't Deserve A New Thread Thread Thread (Part 2)

True. It’s quite the far beyond what people usually live to currently…

In case people are wondering what groupings of other animals are called. A lot of them can be found here.

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Some of them might be quite the archaic…

Axial Seamount, located underwater on the Juan De Fuca Spreading Ridge off the coast of Oregon, may erupt soon, and the eruption will be livestreamed (everything is livestreamed nowadays).

Here is the website for the livestream:

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Can it breach surface or is the peak of the mouth too deep into the ocean?

I think it is too deep underneath the ocean.

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Well then I don’t think it’s memory will last long…

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I want it to be over and done with. I do. I’m tired, Boss.

— Black guy from The Green Mile

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I hope the hermit crabs were still alright.

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Many probably didn’t make it…

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After nearly 7 years using the same 2 cell profile pictures (minus a few halloweens), I finally changed mine.

In all honesty, my art skills have not improved much in that time, though that may be cause I am still using a mouse on the same exact PC.

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Do you plan on bringing back your old pfp eventually?

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I don’t know. It’s still visible here if you want to look at again: Microbial Artwork.

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Also, Happy Mother’s Day everyone!

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We could make a “general nonmajor holiday” thread perhaps…

what about making an organism where every function of the cell, except relating to structure and host dna, is carried out by an endosymbiont adapted to do that one thing perfectly?
and if it’s photosynthetic, that’d mean chlorobioplasts that let atp through their membranes, but not oxygen, and another endosymbiont that turns excess atp into glucose and oxygen using something much more efficient and much faster than rubisco, and just does that

the host cell could also digest everything ecxept the dna in any of its endosymbionts, then take its dna into the nucleus to ‘save’ them to rebuild later, if it’s able to build cells of other organisms from their dna

That would be lots of endosymbionts to carry out all the functions. Also their membranes would slow the flow of resources between cellparts.

mitochondria already have a way to solve that, filling their outer membrane with holes

and if some are more effective without a membrane, thry could get rid of the membrane, and just separate themselves from other cell parts by having different regions of hte cytoskeleton that their stuff (mainly enzymes) reside in
though those endosymbionts would likely get permanently added to the host cell’s genome, though likely as new chromosomes separate from all its old ones
speaking of which, if eukaryotes were able to have their endosymbionts do genetic recombination, by storing the genes of one endosymbiont of each genotype between meiosis and specializing into a reproductive cell, then rebuild the endosymbionts from the recombined genomes after becoming diploid again, and kill off whichever set is worse, we’d probably have much more efficient everything by now, cause our mitochondria, chloroplasts, nitroplasts, aminoplasts, and whatever, would all evolve at the same speed as their hosts

Still, how many endosymbionts would that cell even need just to live?

one for the nucleus stuff(bulk dna handling and bulk dna storage) it’d likely be the one the cell is stated as belonging to unless all the symbionts within the membrane, in which that’d still be the case at first, but eventually someone would observe two nuclei competing to be the one that holds the dna for the cell, and realise the nuclei are also endosymbionts

one for endoplasmic reticulum stuff(would probably originally be thought to be part of the nucleus, but would be genetically and physically separate, but would be fed lots of rna by the nucleoplast, and print any dna the nucleoplast says is for printing, reticuloplast)

one for aerobic respiration and one for anaerobic respiration, both would feed the byproducts of their respiration directly into a plastid for carbon fixation if it’s autotrophic, but if it’s not, then they probably just dump them outside the membrane

one for each type of autotrophy it performs, and one for carbon fixation if it’s autotrophic(thermotrophy using reversible chemothermal reactions could be tuned to keep your internal temp always below a certain level, and would encourage rapid distribution of heat throughout the body

one for extracellular sensory stuff (excluding light, sound, and heat) and managing cell shape

one for powering and making flagellae and cilia(evolved from aeroplast and anaeroplast’s common ancestor, fimbrioplast, could evolve or be modified into a way to transfer atp between cells)

one for immune and digestive functions(immunoplast)

one for muscle power(myoplast, only for soft walled cells, would likely work best if powered via a generator electroplast)

the host cell’s job is just managing endosymbionts and testing them for various stuff, and controlling where enzymes and vesicles go

if there are chloroplasts or chlorobioplasts, they line the inside of the host cell’s membrane and normally feed nearly all the atp they make directly into carboplasts(carbon fixing plastid) which release the byproducts of their functions(both lipoplasts and hexoplasts produce O2, but lipoplasts prpduce a lot more, as, per set of co2 and h2O molecules used(glycerides are mostly just carbon and hydrogen, with to hydrogens per carbon), 3 oxygen atoms are released, as opposed to 2 per set used in hexoplasts, so lipoplasts would make 50% more oxygen than hexoplasts per unit of gas stored), but if atp concentration drops below a certain level, they start putting the atp they make directly into the cytoplasm(tho it’s more of a shared periplasm or exoplasm) to stop the host cell from running out of atp, or to revive the host cell and all the other organelles if needed, since they’d all share an atp pool

instead of a golgi apparatus plastid, it’d be best if the reticuloplast was a double membraned organism and used the outer membrane for golgi apparatus stuff, and the inner one for endoplasmic reticulum stuff, and just had the two membranes fuse where it attaches to the nucleoplast, which is connected to the reticuloplast via a swiss cheese baseplate protein

and i think that’s it, though there could be a smaller nucleoplast inside the nucleoplast for dealing with currently unused dna

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