Two auto-evo eukaryotic proposals

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

Oh, so the system will only decrease the prices, not increase them?

[handy (youssef)]

that’s the intended implimentation, but to be honest with you I have gone to the auto-evo source code and to describ it , I would say a jungle with nearly no guidance and as you could expect it import other variables from other part of the code source, but first,I’ll try to make a comprehensive documentation , I think it will be helpful to the devellopers as much it is to me

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

Yeah, the more we know about the code the better.

[hhyyrylainen]

@handy

Absolutely,even now if I get a good documentation of the code base like , where do I find the variable that gives me the number of organels the player have and where do I find each of the base price and the mutation price multiplier, I could have some C# tutorial about variables and code this

At the end of the day, you just need to browse the code to find such things in any project. Because you cannot have any kind of comprehensive documentation saying where everything is as it would get super outdated fast or need constant updating. Though autogenerated documentation from the code comments would avoid this but we don’t have such a thing setup for Thrive as C# is just all around much nicer to work on in an IDE so any IDE will already handle that.

Though I admit that some general stuff could be documented better as a way to guide people to look in specific places. But here comes the issue of how much effort it is vs. how much it helps. I’ve somewhat recently written about the overall architecture of the game but no one basically finds that document and looks at it. So people just miss that and try to read the code and then ask questions that would have been answered by reading it.

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I guess I can spend a couple of minutes looking up stuff in the code for you (I sort of remember most of these off the top of my head).

@handy

the number of organels the player have

MicrobeSpecies class contains the definition of the species so it also has the organelles:

Revolutionary-Games/Thrive/blob/651eb28abdf5963069de1fbbd8441469b8aa0635/src/microbe_stage/MicrobeSpecies.cs#L67

@handy

f the base price

This is set in the organelles.json file for each OrganelleDefinition in the not very surprisingly named variable MPCost:

Revolutionary-Games/Thrive/blob/3047d382d19c6e369f6727813fcece700dca0126/src/microbe_stage/OrganelleDefinition.cs#L144

@handy

mutation price multiplier

Such a thing doesn’t really exist, so you’d need to clarify what you want. For example there’s AIMutationMultiplier in IDifficulty interface, then there’s the editor discount multiplier, and also in difficulty there’s the player mutation rate variable in MPMultiplier.

@handy

however those are just variable change I don’t know how will this be shown to the players

Well this is a big problem as I think it’ll be quite confusing otherwise.

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

@hhyyrylainen

@handy

however those are just variable change I don’t know how will this be shown to the players

Well this is a big problem as I think it’ll be quite confusing otherwise.

Perhaps have it and the amount it changed somewhere on the “base editor screen” (how the editor looks like when you first enter it in an editor session)?

[handy (youssef)]

@hhyyrylainen

Though I admit that some general stuff could be documented better as a way to guide people to look in specific places. But here comes the issue of how much effort it is vs. how much it helps

I think it will help a lot if it’s well done, I admit those it takes a lot of effort and time , and to be honest with this looks like a thing I am good at “reading” and "documenting ", for the time being I’ll be reading and documenting the auto-evo (as it seems we’ll need it soon in the road map that have been designed.
Why I think it will be helpful and a lot:
1- first understanding
2- adding new features
3-debugging
I might need to ask a lot of questions though but I’ll try to minimize it as much as possible

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

We’d really use having a good understanding of what is in need of being expanded not that far into the future. If you do manage to pull it off, good for you!

[handy (youssef)]

@aah31415

not that far into the future

Depending on you definition of “far into the future”
I might or might not succeed in my endeavor, as you may already know I have a national exam so nothing will be done realistically before summer so is this too far into the future or not?

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

Well, multicellular stage development should start somewhen either in july or august of this year, and there work on multicellular autoevo will likely start.

[handy (youssef)]

Then this is should be considered too far but there is nothing to be done yet I’ll try my best so a prototype could be ready in August

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

You mean a prototype of the “autoevo code explanation document”?

[handy (youssef)]

Yup, believe it or not it’s easy to make mistakes when you’re alone as well as to forget something, so the best I could call my own efforts is a ’ prototype ’

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

And then either you or someone else will improve upon the prototype until it’s no more a prototype…

[handy (youssef)]

Rather then that it will be like’ oh there is something missing in the documentation please add it or maybe this information is wrong you should correct it.
but anyhow I think at least one should do a check up after me.

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

And probably not long after the protodocument is released…