the main debunk to smelting malleable metals was that even the relative frigidity required to melt lead is far too harsh for any smelter structurally complex enough to have a brain would die.
As far as i know only the immediate surroundings of the vent can be deadly,bc of the heat conductivity of water.
Theres also tin and indium which take less to melt.And then you can make a simple underwater forge.
For underwater civilizations, metalworking with hydrothermal vents Might be
a possibility, getting to depths would be impossible for creatures that do not have
tollerance for the intense pressures of the deep.
Therefor, creatures that had evolved presure tollerance earlier on, before the
point of civilization, would not be able to have this feature.
To expand upon this idea, hydrothermal vents could have unique tempatures; Different tempatures would meet different melting point requirments for metals.
Creatures such as yeti crabs and sleeper sharks can actually live around, and in active underwater volcanos. Plus, yeti crabs can live in hydrothermal vent systems.
Thank you for your time.
-Nigel
Also for those that think the creatures would just die from the heat of the hydrothermal vents, think of the sleeper shark for example, it can come into close proximity with these vents, so why wouldn’t others that evolved heat resistance be able to?
slight problem
the heat of vents wont be enoguh to smelt metals
by the way theres a thread for underwater civilization discussions
Tools made of tin, and lead, and various other low melting point metals? Tin has a low melting point of just about 450 degrees f.
wouldnt that kill creatures?
Also, thallium reactors could be a possibility, if the species knew how to get concentrated amounts of neutrons that is.
Lead requirs getting it into your blood stream in order to be lethal.
im talking about temperatures
also you can quote people and edit your replies instead of double posting
As I said in previous posts in this little thread, animals like sleeper sharks can get in close proximity to the hydrothermal vents.
how close are we talking though?
I would have to do further research, but there have been recordings of sleeper sharks actually living in
ACTIVE underwater volcanos.
Im feeling like underwater metalworking of low melting point metals could be a thing.
Also yeti crabs have been found to live in hydrothermal vent systems.
There is already a Thread, and meme, about underwater civilisations.
No, we can’t Smeltle the metal using hydrothermial vents…
May I request that this post be merged with Take 3, @moderators ?
Im completely ok with such things.
Why do* people think that the metal cant be smelted, a few animals are actually found in vents, and underwater volcanos.
The Oxygen need for it, Hyyrylainen and some others on the thread have said why, many times, also I think getting an open flame underwater is very hard if not impossible to do.
A bit of a meta tip, but you can avoid double posting by editing your post.