Ascension Gate

[Amir2]

Very good idea, I could see that

EDIT: To add on, I have another idea for the appearance of the gate
A combination of the previous “Jump Gate” design and this monstrosity from modded Stellaris:(Not working, so I’ll link to a reddit post I found a similar construct on)https://www.reddit.com/r/Stellaris/comments/y28th1/the_grand_design_is_complete/
credit to u/Novaclysm and obviously whoever made ACOT

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

Here’s an idea: what if we had multiple versions of the ascension gate in the game? Perhaps the form in which it’d appear would depend on how has the player developed over the entire game…

[hhyyrylainen]

That applies to basically any building or technology. Like why have only 1 gate variant, when we could have 3, or why stop there why not 10 or why not 50?

It’ll take 50 times more time to make 50 gate models instead of just 1. Same applies to all stuff. This would ensure that Thrive is never getting finished if we get bogged down making 5 variants of all buildings, technical items etc.

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

I’d guess that perhaps we should only start discussing how the ascension gate should look like only once we’ve reached space stage development…

an unrelated thought

the suggestions we make on the forum never seem to be anyhow capable of getting added into the game, there’s always something wrong with them, no matter how much thought was put into them… if so, why even bother to allow posting suggestions here if no suggestion ever is seriously considered? Doesn’t that just seem like a way of free post farming, which is generally thought to be in need of being banned? Shouldn’t the game designers be the ones making all the decisions about the game’s design and not the inexperienced folk of the forum?

[hhyyrylainen]

@aah31415

an unrelated thought

I mean that’s a totally fair point, but if discussing future potential of the game was banned on the forums we would only have a couple of ongoing forum games and nothing else. So that would be a much worse option. I think I’ve been much more active recently in pouring water over overtly ambitious ideas when they were posted, which I mean is not purely necessary as long as the posters know that we aren’t required to add ideas to the game that haven’t gotten push back on the forums. I think I’ll switch back to not replying so readily to ideas soon (and hopefully other forum users will become more active again soon).

[Poodelicus (Crazy, Curious, and Stubborn)]

A few of my early Biome ideas are officially listed on the DEV site.

Biomes

This is some excellent feedback, thank you for your input! First, my initial reasoning for having a ‘Special Land Biomes’ category is that some environments, like wetlands and caves, cannot be defined with humidity and temperature alone, but are also defined by their geography. You’re right that Wetlands are a transition zone between aquatic and land biomes, meanwhile caves aren’t on the surface at all, instead being totally unique spaces underground. With that said, I will admit that I don’t c…

It does seem rare, but at least they read them. Beginners luck i guess my first ever post was a good one.

[tabat (hhyyrylainen cultist. Waiting for ping from someone.)]

@aah31415

Here’s an idea: what if we had multiple versions of the ascension gate in the game? Perhaps the form in which it’d appear would depend on how has the player developed over the entire game…

Why force developers to come up with 100 gate variants when you can make Ascension Gate just a tech object (make it editable in Tech Editor)?

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

That could work very well… Good suggestion!

But just how many objects should be editable? All of them?

[Amir2]

That would be nice, but I think we need maybe a few default versions and an editable base version.

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

@Amir2

but I think we need maybe a few default versions

Then this comes again to the problem hhyyrylainen explained…

[woejoe]

→Build the Ascension Gate in real life
→Let the Thrive developers ascend
→They become gods and finish the game in mere seconds
simple as.

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

Ascension gate is a soft scifi tech piece. That’s not happening like ever.

[Deathwake (i nuked zenzone and will never let him forget it)]

If anyone here has a billion dollars and watches Pantheon Hhy is totally getting uploaded, weather he likes it or not. Not ascension, but pretty godlike.

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

Is being “uploaded” all that better than regular life in terms other than lifespan?

[Deathwake (i nuked zenzone and will never let him forget it)]

in the TV show it has basically built in mental aging that will kill you (spoilers for like, the central conflict?), so no, but that’s just a TV show, IRL it would probably make you nigh immortal (I mean, tape backups are cheap).

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

Are we sure human beings are made to live for such long times? How would their sanity fare after a thousand years?

[Deathwake (i nuked zenzone and will never let him forget it)]

oh it wouldn’t fare at all. You would, however, have a thousand years to fix the problem. Plus, if a multi century old computer doesn’t want to live anymore, it’d probably be treated a lot better than a middle aged human, or even an ill senior, especially if it was noticeably insane. And if you’re bored, you could back yourself up and sell your servers, leave a trust around to buy you a new server in a few centuries when something worth investigating had happened.

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

If you create a “backup of yourself” and then have this backup wait until something happens for this backup of you to get into action, is the backup really you anymore (as in the “you” which created this backup)?

[Deathwake (i nuked zenzone and will never let him forget it)]

Well you shut off immediately after you made the backup because you’re bored. If you asked if the restored backup is still you, uh, does a nap kill you? Go take one and tell me if you’re still you. You may argue that the uploaded person could keep doing stuff after they made the backup, but uh, if you did take a nap, I’d ask if you remembered what you’d dreamed about or the exact moment you fell asleep. Even chance you remember neither, because your brain just never saved it because it didn’t matter. You obviously didn’t die. The philosophical question of “but maybe you did!” and “Yes but what if you run the backup while you’re still around, now there’s two of you!” aren’t really answerable, but we have something close enough to an answer: It don’t really matter.

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

There’s a difference between a nap and a backup through: Even during a nap the brain still retains some levels of activity, from it’s beginning to it’s end. Whereas a backup’s “mind” would only become active at all again if it’s activated, so atleast to me it’d seem more like a clone…