Biomes

Why are the arthropogenic biomes assigned specifically to 5.8.x?

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  1. I think players will prefer new technologies and mechanics over expansion of where NPC’s on their planet are classified as living.
  2. Many of those technologies and mechanics will be prerequisites:
  • One cannot have abandoned excavation sites before one implements and balances excavation technologies and mechanics
  • One cannot have a polluted biome before implementing and balancing types of pollution and ways to inflict them
  • One needs to be able to build and expand a city before figuring out whether or not rat like creatures whom lost there forest homes moved into peoples walls

I believe they are an eventuality, but both for reasons of priority and need to build off other things to make them work, they will likely be a later update. Maybe we will get lucky and they will be 5.7.x or 5.6.x. Then again, what other mechanics the player can actually use would be pushed back to do that?

Unless a hard mode special challenge of being a stage 3 creature living in a stage 6 NPC’s world actually gets implemented. But that will likely be even later if at all. I hope they do eventually make a scenario like that though.

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Shouldn’t farmlands and other society stage stuff get implemented when society stage is being developed and not industrial stage?

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Some of these would work as society stage. But a lot of these would be smaller scale before the industrial stage. Its a question of “how many acres are needed for this to be its own biome”. Then again, that would probably depend on the size of the creature living in it.

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Since a civilizations develops so fast, would the auto-evo just assign suitable species to these new civ-related biomes (if any can survive well enough in them)?

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I would assume so. What would be interesting is seeing if the suitable species can sneak on to vehicles to move to new cities, islands, and continents. Many larger boats have rats. That’s a biome I didn’t think of before.

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I guess that’s since it’s a mode of transport and generally not a biome.

Could resource transport rockets also be considered biomes since they could in theory carry a population of small organisms unnnoticed?

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How many generations might the small organisms live unnoticed on something that travels through space?

Edit: Let me rephrase that.

Indoor biomes are acknowledged in many Anthropogenic biome categories, but they are poorly defined and not really studied. Some people (and small creatures) literally live on a boat, and some boats have more inside space than deck space, so would those qualify as indoors?

A large boat may go from port to port to port, stopping long enough to unload/reload cargo/passengers and restock supplies for the crew (and passengers if applicable). Days in port, months at sea, days in port, months at sea, and small creatures may live in the shadows below deck for generations living off trash and unwatched food. Some may get on or get off at the next port, but some may be born, grow up, have and raise children, grow old, and die without ever leaving the boat. And the crew of the boat, while visiting port briefly and regularly, would spend the majority of there time on the boat, not only active, but creating trash and consuming things that the small creatures could get at.

Not lets look at space travel. Many types of food don’t hold up in zero gravity, and crumbs can get into and damage sensitive equipment. Because of this astronauts are limited in what food is available, such as dehydrated foods, which would not be suitable for a small creature that is not known to be there and cannot add its own water. There is also limited space for storage and energy for freezing things. Of course, those are modern rockets.

Lets say we evolve technology to the point of the star ship Enterprise. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe they had a machine that effectively materialized any food they wanted with the push of a few buttons. In other words, there was actually no food at all stored on the ship, other than perhaps cargo. But they also had advanced scanners that would probably find small creatures easily. Rockets have all kinds of safety checks and decontamination procedures. If they got where they were going and found any evidence there cargo had been gotten into, I doubt that a small creature would be able to hide for long in such a technology advanced age.

So how many generations could a small creature live unnoticed on a rocket? Are we talking a delivery rocket that makes frequent trips with short stops? Unload the last delivery, load the next. top off the fuel, and off to the next planet? Are we talking a passenger rocket that, like a bus, goes back and forth on a scheduled route, Next Stop: Mars, please let departing passengers off before boarding, All aboard, next stop: Jupiter? How would “resources” be stored on a resource rocket. What resources could be transported in a way that small creatures would have access. How many trips of resource delivering would the rocket make with how short of stops in between? Would it even have an active crew, or would they be in cryosleep with oxygen turned off to conserve resources?

At what point is a mode of transport somewhere something can “live”. Would the transport rocket have crew that live on it the way some people live on boats? Would those people have food stored somewhere other than a matter generating vending machine? Would they store trash somewhere, as opposed to having small portable incinerators they used like bag-less trashcans, or ejecting the trash into space? These are all questions that would need to be answered before deciding whether or not a particular space ship could be a biome for small unnoticed creatures.

Edit: Typo

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no way that’s going to be in the “scientifically accurate” version of the game.

By small animals I mean things like mites more than mice. Could they have a chance at colonizing habitats belonging to the civ from their planet if they are still in rather early space stage?

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I didnt read it but im sure it goated so we are supporting you !

And also yes they are capable. Count them as colony, hive minded group.

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I assume they have matter of some kind which is converted into other matter, so, maybe? If tearing matter apart, beaming it somewhere, and putting it back together (teleporting. as I understand it) is possible, than perhaps rearranging molecules to turn one thing into something else is as well. Maybe.

Yes, definitely.

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How would atmospheric biomes work like if there are the necesarry conditions to form them?

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Atmospheric Biomes? Like for a creature that lives in the atmosphere? Are we talking really really tall mountain nest, or are we talking flies eternally without ever landing lives in the atmosphere? Or am I really misunderstanding you?

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I mean in a world where the atmosphere has the necesarry composition to support atmospheric (floating) flora (and with it, fauna).

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That … is a really good question. I’ve never considered floating plants before. I am not sure where to go with that. Intriguing idea though. I am curios about other peoples ideas on this.

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My main guess is that the distribution of life would be roughly opposite to the one seen in oceans, with the lowest layers having the most life due to the largest amount of resources, with this amount decreasing the higher you go, also causing a decrease in amount of lifeforms up there.