Ideas for the Microbe Stage [Put your ideas in this thread]

[AnthropocenianAge (𝒜𝓇𝓉𝒽𝓇𝑜𝓅𝓁𝑒𝓊𝓇𝒶 𝓌𝒶𝓃𝓉𝓈 𝓉𝑜 𝑔𝒾𝓋𝑒 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒶 𝒽𝓊𝑔!)]

So there is a chance the Hyperverse will made real in Thrive?

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

@Poodelicus

Also, that was a double post.

It looks normal for me, not doubled.

@AnthropocenianAge

So there is a chance the Hyperverse will made real in Thrive?

Perhaps if someone decides to make that?

[Poodelicus (Crazy, Curious, and Stubborn)]

Wha . . .? It rearranged? Hmm. Strange.

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

This sometimes happens when posts are posted in rapid succession.

[AnthropocenianAge (𝒜𝓇𝓉𝒽𝓇𝑜𝓅𝓁𝑒𝓊𝓇𝒶 𝓌𝒶𝓃𝓉𝓈 𝓉𝑜 𝑔𝒾𝓋𝑒 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒶 𝒽𝓊𝑔!)]

I just hope Multiplayer Microbe and above does not have too much lag…

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

That will depend on the server computer of whoever is hosting the game most likely.

[CaravanMan0929 (I dont actually know what a caravan is BTW)]

I have an idea for a new organelle which is the lipid droplet

When an microbe produces excess glucose it will be able to convert some glucose to fat, which is stored in the cell. During times of low glucose, fat can be burnt to make more glucose. Fat storing is a more efficient way to store energy than glucose and ATP but it takes longer to get energy from it

[AnthropocenianAge (𝒜𝓇𝓉𝒽𝓇𝑜𝓅𝓁𝑒𝓊𝓇𝒶 𝓌𝒶𝓃𝓉𝓈 𝓉𝑜 𝑔𝒾𝓋𝑒 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒶 𝒽𝓊𝑔!)]

And lipid droplets seem to be conserved from Prokaryote to Eukaryotes.
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.18.103093v1.full
Maybe this could also be a Multicellular thing?

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

Would there be an equivalent for chemolithoautotrophs?

[Rathalos]

@CaravanMan0929

I have an idea for a new organelle which is the lipid droplet

I think in Thrive a lipid droplet would simply be a vacuole specialised for lipids.

So the real major additions would actually be the “lipids” compound, and a part for the reversible conversion between glucose and lipids.

@CaravanMan0929

When an microbe produces excess glucose it will be able to convert some glucose to fat, which is stored in the cell. During times of low glucose, fat can be burnt to make more glucose. Fat storing is a more efficient way to store energy than glucose and ATP but it takes longer to get energy from it

It’s definitely a fun idea, but would probably also need new code to handle when the process in either direction should be activated or deactivated.

@aah31415

Would there be an equivalent for chemolithoautotrophs?

IRL, anything actually called a “heterotroph” is producing its own organic compounds (glucose), so would also be able to do the extra step to convert those to lipids.

For iron oxidizers as in Thrive that do not use glucose at all, I can’t immediately think of an equivalent.

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

Maybe an equivalent could be put in nonlawk?

[Rathalos]

Even non-LAWK features have to be scientifically plausible. They’re just not observed in life on earth.

So you would have to look for a sensible chemical way to store ferrous iron.

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

So yeah I’d imagine this would just be left out for the cells of iron

[hhyyrylainen]

@Rathalos

It’s definitely a fun idea, but would probably also need new code to handle when the process in either direction should be activated or deactivated.

This sounds almost exactly like the problem with RuBisCO…

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

I have a feeling fat wouldn’t be as easy to ommit as rubisco though

[AnthropocenianAge (𝒜𝓇𝓉𝒽𝓇𝑜𝓅𝓁𝑒𝓊𝓇𝒶 𝓌𝒶𝓃𝓉𝓈 𝓉𝑜 𝑔𝒾𝓋𝑒 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒶 𝒽𝓊𝑔!)]

Fat will be a thing in later stages, right?

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

I think it would require some heavy duty justification to omit it

[AnthropocenianAge (𝒜𝓇𝓉𝒽𝓇𝑜𝓅𝓁𝑒𝓊𝓇𝒶 𝓌𝒶𝓃𝓉𝓈 𝓉𝑜 𝑔𝒾𝓋𝑒 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒶 𝒽𝓊𝑔!)]

So for now, Thrive is basically fat free!

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

Tbh you do need some fat to live

[Rathalos]

@hhyyrylainen

This sounds almost exactly like the problem with RuBisCO…

Indeed, that’s exactly what it reminded me of as well.

@aah31415

I have a feeling fat wouldn’t be as easy to ommit as rubisco though

@AnthropocenianAge

Fat will be a thing in later stages, right?

We’re already use glucose storage as energy storage. So it’s easy to abstract away the function of fat as energy storage. I think it’s quite likely we’ll want some form of fat tissue in and beyond Macroscopic, but that still does not absolutely require fat as a compound with related processes. Unless the speed of conversion between fat and sugar is a bottleneck we want to model, we can just have fat tissue store larger amounts of glucose than would be otherwise possible.