prove it.
don’t just repeat the same belgiuming baseless, idiotic statement, assuming that i will listen to you if you keep repeating it.
if you want me to believe that what you say about the human ability to withstand eternity, provide evidence. not statements made with no evidence, and endlessly repeated by the pro-death hivemind.
source?
again. provide sources.
are you able to see into my mind, see all my fears, all my interests, and all of the traits that make me who i am?
no?
then don’t belgiuming assume what i want.
i want to never return to being trapped in the thoughtless void from whence i came.
and if there is no afterlife, that means never dying.
if there is an afterlife, i’d want to know what it’s like before i go.
because you’re doing nothing but being a parrot, repeating information you probably heard off of reddit or youtube and never fact checked, and conveniently not providing a single source, or using any inforamtion that is common knowledge, that has been proven time and time again, of that and why it is, to back up your claims.
arguments where sources are provided are MUCH more interesting than evidence free arguments.
i know i need to work on that as well, but i at least try to.
years?
you could literally just apply a current to some stranded copper wire that’s in a solution of water and an electrolyte, and freeze it while the current is being applied
that wouldn’t even take a year.
just figuring out how best to get the copper to connect to two plates to apply the current through
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I think we need to stop this discourse, I can image Hhyyrylainen will be worried when he sees there have been like sixty replies to this thread in the span of just six hours. Plus it became heated somewhat now…
Considering how few elements are needed to replicate this, I have a feeling this sort of setup has already been used at least once before, willingly or not…
you know how ice likes to form bubbles inside of it when you don’t freeze it from the bottom to the top?
that makes it kinda require you make a container specifically to force any escaping gasses to go up, so despite being simple, it kinda has to be done intentionally, especially since the insulator around the wires has to be homogenous aside from the ion gradient through it, and capable of carrying ions
which means commercially viable ones would probably use glass as the insulator
and it’d be best to cut the electret in half perpendicular to the direction of current flow after it’s formed, to separate it into an 0 → + electret, and a - → 0 electret, if you want to resist electrons or ions going in less(since positively charged ions tend to have less electrical resistance than negatively charged ones), and cutting a hole through an electret would make something you can just put a hole through, and then use to passively accelerate a charged fluid, with + ions going from + to -, and - ions going from - to +
which means to accelerate an acid, you’d want to use a - to 0 electret, and to accelerate a base, you’d want to use a 0 to + electret
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And then the “free energy” would be harvested off the acceleration?
yep
it’d be easiest if you use it to accelerate electrons directly tho, as voltage is the average speed at which electrons are moving through a conductor, and thus it’d be pretty easy to make DC with it
if ya want direct to AC though, you gotta use a turbine to turn directed motion into rotation, and then use the the rotation to generate AC instead
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Usually when someone talks about “free energy” it reminds me of these “fidget spinner + magnets = infinite energy source” videos that were popular some years ago
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…This suddenly made me realize that modern windmills are like gigantic, vertical fidget spinners…
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yeah, honestly same
but people really need to stop that from making them totally ignore anything that even smells like free energy.
and those videos also were just run in reverse, and didn’t actually use anything new or untested(like strong electrets, using electrets to propel things, or exploiting the temperature gradient produced by heat pumps
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The main problem is that “free energy” shouldn’t be possible per what we know.
Anyways, no, I don’t believe you for a femtosecond that this scheme will work until you show your work.
This would completely rewrite physics as we know it if true, it wouldn’t just be the discovery of the century, or the millenium, but of the eon.
Are you sure that this isn’t just moving energy around in an uncoventional way, like heat pumps were?
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It already takes a lot to just make little changes to what we know about physics, changing it completely would require even more, probably so much a single researcher couldn’t pull it off alone…
You very much don’t, your whole argument is that people would never get bored of their hobby, which you never even try to prove, and intuition suggests is false.
technically the thing with that is that the net energy in a closed system must remain the same, otherwise 0-point energy would also violate the laws of physics, and especially the existence of virtual particles and their ability to become real particles[1]
at how physicists act whenever you bring up anything that even smells like perpetual motion, yes
the reason why it should work is already proven true by the fact that a certain type of dielectric capacitors work, that said specific type of capacitor is literally a sheet of dielectric material between two electrodes, and the mechanism behind it, as well as why and how ph gradients like to destroy themselves, what happens when you try to conduct electricity through a liquid(positive ions are attracted to the negative electrode, and negative ions to the positive electrode), and what happens when you freeze a liquid with an ion gradient across it
i will try to come up with experimental data though, but first, look into how dielectric electrets work.
in this situation. which is why i mentioned that i know i need to work on it.
i highly doubt the last part unless that’s some neuro-normie thing i’m too autistic to understand
and for evidence on why i say people don’t just get bored of their hobbies or special interests(and i mean that it’s not something that happens anywhere near as much or in the same ways as getting bored of things that aren’t your hobbies or interests happens, not that it’s impossible to get bored of them.), (1, 2, 3, 4, 5)
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ok apparently there is a link between ADHD (likely unmedicated or improperly medicated ADHD specifically), and getting temporarily bored of your hobbies more quickly(1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7), but again, that’s with adhd, not for everyone., and just because they become repetitive, and take a wild guess what can be done to solve that?
yep!
if you guessed “cycling through your hobbies, and having enough that you are rarely bored of all of them at once” you would be correct!
and even people with ADHD rarely become permanently bored of any of their hobbies, unless they also have depression, due to the mechanisms that cause it to be possible to be genetically predisposed to depression. (1, 2, 3, 4, 5), which are also some of the same disorders that cause some of the dopamine (and serotonin) regulation issues that are related to inattentive ADHD(1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7), but dopamine regulation issues can be treated with caffeine, and selective reuptake inhibitors can treat serotonin and dopamine(norepinephrine) regulation issues, with SSRIs treating serotonin reuptake, and SNRIs stopping dopamine and serotonin reuptake, both of which help with chemical communication between neurons, while caffeine blocks adenosine receptors(1, 2), inhibits phosphodiesterase activity, which increases concentrations of cAMP and cGMP(1, 2, 3), activates norepinephrine neurons(1), and promotes uptake of Ca²⁺ ions.
(and, in my experience, and those of everyone in my family, atomoxetine HCL and caffeine work Extremely well at allowing us to always be able to focus very well on something[1])|
anyways, based on the mechanisms of action, and some anecdotal evidence, SNRIs and caffeine together should treat nearly all of the negative symptoms of inattentive adhd (depending on which ones you view as negative)[2], so that can be used to fix getting bored of things easier.
then, just cycle through your hobbies as you see fit, and it should be impossible to get bored enough that it causes you to go insane
and if you can get permanently bored of your hobbies?
well
1, that’s a you problem, not a universal problem
2: that can probably be fixed by pacing yourself on them, and not working yourself to exhaustion
and 3: you can still pick up new hobbies, and wait until you completely forget everything about ones you’ve completely burnt out on, before trying to pick those back up.
i know it’s anecdotal evidence, but it’d be pretty easy to do a study on the effects of atomoxetine and caffeine on people with innatentive ADHD. all you need is 4 groups of people with untreated adhd, 1 of which receives a placebo and decaf coffee, 1 of which recieves a placebo and normal coffee, the third receives atomoxetine hcl and decaf coffee, and the fourth recieves atomoxetine hcl and normal coffee ↩︎
(and, based on all the things caffeine does to the human brain and body, and how our lethal dose for it is over a whole gram for an average adult male human, i’m pretty sure we’ve used it for long enough that it is an almost necessary macronutrient in some people) ↩︎
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From where would the electret energy generators source their “free” energy from then?
in regards to your ability to withstand eternity?
i’m pretty sure neurological structure and chemical regulation are literally the two things that determine how long you are theoretically capable of lasting, assuming all external factors are ignored
especially since one of the arguments against humans being able to last forever is the fact that, as you age, your axons get pruned
and there are mountains of evidence that autistic people do a lot less axon pruning than allistic people do
Compared to infinity, lasting for billions (or more) of years more or less than others is irrelevent.
Also that is not what that was talking about.
It is not, my whole argument is that you would get bored, you just misinterpreted it, to mean that I was talking about neurological structure instead of psychology.
Hubris then? And an hubris that is impossible to accomplish to begin with, even.