After some information digging I came to conclusion,the current fer organels are not realistic.
First: the equation it says it take fer and gives energy in the present of CO2 but the real equation will be it take Fe2+ which is light green in real life moreover the results are CH4 and Fe(OH)3 which color is dark red
Moreover in an the present of oxygen Fe2+ becomes Fe3+ naturally (color red rust as you know it) and there is some bacteria who uses this reaction (Fe2+ + O2= Fe3+ + OH- ) to make energy, so in real life the use of CO2 will not work in the presence of oxygen since oxygen will react with Fe2+ faster then CO2 and this what caused the great oxygenation.
I found as well a reaction that used our red fer Fe3+ that we commonly use in the game but the equation rather then require CO2 it gives CO2 as product
Fe3+ + organic material (alcohol and other materials that have the ability to give an electron) → Fe2+ + CO2+energy
Some theorist would need to take a look at this but I’ll say to clarify that the iron process used to take in both oxygen and CO2. The change to not taking in oxygen was done when switching the gases to be dynamic so that iron metabolism would still be viable in the game.
Right, so the “old” rustycyanin could be considered “more accurate”, even if just by a bit…
So, let me make it clear so the theorist can see the problem.
First the kind a fer that used in metabolism:
-Fe2+: color light green
-Fe3+: color red (most known as rusty)
Second the equations that of metabolism:
1- (Fe2+)+CO2+H2O → energy+ Fe(OH)3+CH4(the equation is not balanced)
2- (Fe2+)+O2+H2O → energy+ Fe3+OH- (this equation will make more energy)
3- (Fe3+)+ organic material( could in most cases be generated from the fermentation of glucose)-> Fe2+CO2
And the big second big problem that Fe2+ will oxide naturally into Fe3+ in the presence of oxygen
So then the in-game equation would need to be changed to include glucose as one of the things needed for rustycyanin to work…
if you want the real science ,then when we do fermentation using those red things, the product will be an alchool or something similar,that will be stored and then used to reduce Fe3+ into Fe2+,that it self could be stored and used again(the first equation)
life love cycles,and even methane CH4 could be used if there is oxgen with the right proportion
It would still need to use glucose to reach that step.
Would alcohol be represented at all?
if a representation is to be maid thenwe need one for
-Fe2+(actual solid thing) green
-alcohol (even if it is just transparent liquide so we could alocate some kind of gaz cloud color to it)
-methan(gaz,just like oxgen and CO2 you could make it into atmospheric gaz percentage or number)
Two new compounds to fix one organelle? That’s probably too much…
make sense, then we could at least make the fer we use green and like this,we use the first equations , while ignoring the real cause of the great oxgination.I mean the microbe stage will be played for 2 Hours at most so we need to advance more then when things looks better, and thrive is attracting more and more attention we could start fixing those little details
I guess so. But at the same time microbe stage must also feel “feature complete” by 1.0.0.
I mean it depends, even right know I feel the microbial stage is complete,I mean all the main features are already installed in place,(please give me a link to the road map) moreover who is crazy enough to check for the microbial fer metabolism just to check the game acuarcy ?, I just wanted to make a point with a friend that the world was much greener before the great oxgenation since fer could not be oxided and will be Fe2+ which is green
here you go
thank you very much ,I’ll see it right now:smiling_face_with_three_hearts:
There are also other important notes in the developer wiki