Looping back to the topic, the ‘writing to iq estimate’ is strange. With a couple words I can convince it that I’m clinically slow and then with another more clever wording it thinks i have an iq of 144
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Pretty sure it’s not how IQ was even meant to be measured
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Alright here’s the stats of the average iq in the Thrive forum plus some other values (highly flawed from small dataset)
Mean
123.5
Median
126
Mode
130
Range
52
Minimum
95
Maximum
147
Count n
10
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I wonder where might Hhyyrylainen lie on this scale…
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In a human, such an IQ would indicate a profound intellectual delay/disability, so the person would have immense difficulty with eating, dressing, and would probably be immobile. Their mental age would be only around 6-7 months (brain rot), but, at the same time, a baby probably knows how to eat. I doubt a dolphin has capabilities at such a level, unless a person with 2-3 IQ makes up for their deficits in other cognitive domains.
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I mean it’s not like they would score very high, right? How much IQ do YOU think they’d realisticly have?
They lag behind us a lot in language, but they are at our level (at least below average) or close in some others, so I would give them an IQ of 30-50
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Is the same true for other selfaware animals?
Probably, but their IQ estimates would be very rough and not very practical because they are generally survival-driven and their psychologies would be alien in comparison to ours.
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I recall we have never recorded one of these ask about anything other than food or other sort of “reward”
Well Iq potentially only measures the logical-mathematical part of your brain, so they could be smarter in linguistics and naturalistic intelligence, emotional, etc. Although I think dolphins are closer to 50-60 iq as they are as smart as an 8 year old.
Logical measurements varies, even at that age. Albert Einstein did not like Mathematics initially when he was 5, and then began to develop a passion for it later on in childhood.
Brains aren’t stable monoliths, they constantly change, even if just a singular connection at a time.
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I.Q. is a test designed to fit everyone taking it onto a normal distribution. That is all it is. It is also support to correlate with intelligence. A dolphin realistically speaking has an IQ that’s similar to 2-3 in terms of how comically unlikely it would be in a human. This is for a simple reason: dolphins have no inclination or ability to take a multiple choice test. While other forms of IQ tests exist, the only way to make a proper IQ test is to design a test which produces scores which, when plotted on a graph with a lot of people taking them, make a normal distribution. Dolphins are not included at any step. If you make a test they can solve, why should they want to? Why will they pick answers a human would only know to pick if they were intelligent? I.Q. is not a good way to think about human intelligence, it’s a catastrophic way to think about nonhuman intelligence.
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To be fair has a better system over it been designed yet?
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https://www.reddit.com/r/cognitiveTesting/controversial/?t=year I found a subreddit that’s this thread but unironic
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You mean it’s this specific category of that subreddit that is unironic?
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Yesn’t, half the posts are people whining about IQ and having pretentious boasting competitions. Which is what this thread’s title is making fun of.
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They don’t know the IQ system isn’t so perfect…
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Umm, I don’t know how to tell you but I’m not convinced our thread is actually making fun of the expression, it might be actually serious. Or at least I recall finding that out hundreds of posts ago in this thread but I’m too lazy to see if I posted about it at the time here…
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