Yes, and already in English we are seeing people challenge the pronouns we currently have in favor of ones that support gender fluid and nonbinary people better than “it/they/them” with neopronouns, i would not at all be surprised if these get added to formal english within the next 30-50 years or so
| 1st Person | 2nd Person | 3rd Person | 1st Plural | 2nd Plural | 3rd Plural | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| H. Male | þuf | mir | ñuf | þuuf | miir | ñunuf |
| H. Female | þir | ñir | guv | þiþir | ñiñir | guvuv |
| H. Unknown/Neither | þil | sil | gil | þiþil | siliis | gigiil |
| NH. Male | þag | tak | zhag | þaag | takak | zhaag |
| NH. Female | þug | shuk | zhug | þugu | shuhuk | zhuhu |
| NH. Unknown/Neither | þä | taks | zhä | þää | taktaks | zhää |
| Inanimate | N/A (ofc) | di | din | N/A (ofc) | didi | dindin |
| Unknown | N/A (ofc) | siltaks | gilzhä | N/A (ofc) | siltaktaks | gildindin |
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that makes a lot more sence to my fish brain, now lets try to fill it and make our first words
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My previous post with the table is now a wiki post, to make it easier to change and add pronouns.
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I deffinitly like your idea of using the OO(ʊ) sound for pronouns, maybe if we tried to incorporiate it into most of the pronouns it could give our language a unique sound to it
Also since i like the omega symbol i vote for it being using in the alphabet
I did edit the chart to include a sugestion for unkown being a combination of the other unkown
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Just a reminder about the romanization for this table:
u is ʊ
i is i
a is a
ä is the deeper a (I’m to lazy to get the symbol rn)
Sh is the sh in should
Zh is the g in centrifuge
Edit: I like the idea of combining the other 2 unknowns for the generic unknowns. I don’t know what the purpose would be, but having 2 different versions seems interesting
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i was thinking maybe either siltak or gilzhä or both could actually be the word for unknown/not known/not certain just a suggestion
(by the way I wanted to point out that we already voted a while ago that the name for our language is Thrivian i am willing for a revote on this if people have other ideas now though)
tell me if my idea of just doubling up the pronouns is to silly/lazy/whatever, but i posted an example with the H males
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Our phoneme charts, but every phoneme is linked to a corresponding wikimedia sound.
| Consonants | Bilabial | Labiodental | Dental | Alveolar | Palatal | Velar | Glottal |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Nasal | m | n | ɲ | ŋ | |||
| Stop | p; b | t; d | k; g | ʔ | |||
| Fricative | f; v | θ | s; z | ʃ; ʒ | (x) | h | |
| Tap/flap | (ɾ) | ||||||
| Trill | (r) | (ʀ) | |||||
| Approximate | ɹ | j | |||||
| Lat. Approx. | l |
(the “()” mean that a consonant is an allophone)
(a vowel followed by an “ː” is a longer version of that vowel)
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thank you for the effort you went through for that
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Maybe instead of just doubling those up, we elongate the vowel?
mir->miir
ñuf->ñunuf
excellent actually it looks a lot cleaner and there is still to n’s in nunuf so it still sounds a bit quirky
I like this idea.
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3 votes makes it seem pretty offical @OoferDoofer do you want to fill out the chart like that since it was your idea?
(also fix the mistake i made putting second person into first person)
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I gotta go, probably will be back in a few hours. I’ve done some of the work, but could you finish out the table? Maybe even add the 1st person ones if you get a good idea.
Just to note, /ni/ is quite hard to pronounce and the /n/ is dragging the /i/ towards /ɪ/. Given that this language has /ɲ/, I think the simpler /ɲi/ is more likely to occur.
okay i finished the table to my best interpritation, i did add a “s” at the end of tak for unknown in () to suggust a diffrentation between non human male and non human unkown
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Sice you weren’t around at that time, here’s the romanization (so far)
RomanizationV2.5
Consonants:
m = /m/
n = /n/
ñ = /ɲ/ /ŋ/
p = /p/
b = /b/
t = /t/
d = /d/
k = /k/
g = /g/
’ = /ʔ/
f = /f/
v = /v/
þ = /θ/
s = /s/
z = /z/
š = /ʃ/
ž = /ʒ/
h = /h/ (/x/)
r = /ɹ/ /ɾ/ (/r/) (/ʀ/)
j = /j/
l = /l/
Vowels:
i = /i/ | ii = /i:/
u = /ʊ/ | uu = /ʊ:/
y = /ə/ | yy = /ə:/
a = /a/ | aa = /a:/
ä = /ɑ/ | ää = /ɑ:/
Diphthongs:
ui = /ʊi/ | iu = /iʊ/
ua = /ʊa/ | au = /aʊ/
ia = /ia/ | ai = /ai/
Examples:
IPA:
/jəːʒʒin/
/fʊʒ/
/bippaŋ/
/sɑːvvih/
RomanizationV2.5:
jyyžžin
fuž
bippañ
säävvih
ah, can you fix any mistakes i made then?
@Nie do you got any bright ideas for the 1st person?
well, þ hasn’t been used…
does that sound like anything? or is it supposed to be like a sudden stop?
reason i ask being there isn’t a sound file