I don’t recall games being 18+'d for having nukes in them…
I know, I’m just making a satirical statement on absurdity of age ratings
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As long as there are no sudden changes which’d make avoiding the 18+ label impossible, we should be fine.
Uggg.
I still don’t like that this is a concern, because we lose accuracy and gameplay depth every time Thrive has to censor something. I guess you could put stuff like designing mating rituals into the hypothetical mod.
The thing is, I don’t think it’s fair to blame Thrive for whatever the end-user does with it. If we implement a simple ‘here is hole from which gametes come’, Thrive can’t be blamed for whatever silly things someone does with this part.
I don’t really have any good input on this. It’s just a very frustrating thought.
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Similarly to how spore had various “nsfw” creatures and yet it’s still considered a childrens’ game.
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My opinion on this topic:
The mating animation is incredibly difficult to implement, you have to take into account that the creatures are procedurally generated and that the animation takes place with 2 creatures at once and that they are in very close contact (which is why you also need to ensure that they do not fall into each other.).
The situation is similar with dismemberment; it is necessary to make incredibly complex or even impossible algorithms for it to work because the anatomy of the creatures must be taken into account.
Regarding the mechanics of changing the morphology of the genital organs, I want to say that this simply does not make sense in gameplay; all the usual mechanics can be implemented in an organ in the form of a ball.
As already was reached before: Too much effort for such a niche feature…
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May I ask, for what reason are we drawing any lines at all?
If it is for the sake of Youtube censors, as has been the most common reason I have seen in this thread, there’s no reason to cut out anything: Both the posted guidelines and the hosted content show that natural non-human actions, be they sexual, gory, or both, are perfectly permissable on that platform, including for non-live-action depictions
Another common reason stated in this thread is that it is about ratings from ESRB or PEGI or such organisations. Regarding potentially sexual content: These organisations do not rate user-generated content, which would include any obscene sexual organ the player designs (I feel it’s highly unlikely that a decent auto-evo system would create something notably obscene on its own). As for gore, I don’t see a way to avoid it without somehow removing carnivory entirely. There’s also a good chance that gory displays would be considered user-generated (as the player must design the organs and the tissues that form the gore when removed)
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I think this part of the thread was supposed to be about not making carcasses and dying creatures “too detailed” to the point that it’s straight up disgusting.
I generally say we make the detail we can. No one is going to animate high quality mating animations or fine tune procedural stuff to feel, uh, properly sexual, or design some ridiculous individual guts spilling out of something simulation because that would have to take into account your evolution. I am also against restricting stuff. If your creature looks human enough mating seems sexual or is otherwise shaped weird, that’s on you. You could have autoevo… but you can’t predict that and it’ll likely make normal shaped animals. Maybe bipedal apes is kinda an obvious shape, but i expect autoevo to no be a problem. Gore? If someone makes a thorough gore system it can be turned off, a parasite player might be seeing it enough they stop caring or seeing it enough they want it turned off in case the want to eat something, and more options in a game is more options for a player.
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If Thrive truly is never to be age-rated, we will have less restrictions when it comes to how far can we go (in theory atleast)…
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I agree that the player should have the right to do absolutely any orchanism, even if it looks like a human sexual organ or a symbol of the 3rd belgium. However, I believe that it is still not worth spending effort on their development for the reasons I described above.
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You mean as in it’s not worth to specifically do things like preventing the player from making their organism inappropriate-shaped, right?
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For the sex scenes: They should skip over the actual sex, and only show a sperm going into an egg, so that you can infer what happened. I don’t think that there will be scenes for every different mating ritual and sex type combiation ever, anyways. But gore? Toggleable blood color. That’s what I prefer.
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I’ve also heard we could use different blood colors to go around having to censor gore so much…
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Should the game also avoid using Blue, White, Crimson, or Violet, since those are actual colors of oxygenated and de-oxygenated blood for organisms with different oxygen-binding/lacking oxygen-binding proteins?
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Pretty sure red is the most concerning color for the devforce, and I don’t think these other blood colors are as problematic. Removing them would rid quite the portion of the color palette from usage…
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So people can evolve into accurate Oxygen-Copper-binding protein blue blood Horseshoe Crabs?
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Probably. The goal of the macroscopic/aware stage editor should be to make the most of earthly organisms be recreatable within it.
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Which Earthly organisms might not be possible to re-create in the game?
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