Moving to Linux Thread

Why was it named that though? Is it related to itโ€™s creators?

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Y-land. Wayland. I explained that much and i cannot for the life of me find an explanation deeper than that, maybe Kristian Hรธgsberg really liked the town of Wayland and had enjoyed a trip to nearby Westonโ€ฆ idk

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I wonder if the town itself will reference this piece of programming in the future if it doesnโ€™t alreadyโ€ฆ

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You mean that thang was X.com? Hawk tuah and spit on that thang!

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One thing I can let this slangpiece be used on

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Naming things X for no good reason is much older than elon

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Remember when people named their stuff โ€œXx(name)xXโ€ back in a day?

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yeah so many people buy devices they dont neeed. Spicifically a recent time, windows 11 came outโ€ฆ and NO ONE upgraded their PCs, because the new OS gains you NOTHING. This belgiumed off all the manufacturers, everyone sells a PC with windows, they pay for that windows liscince, and they expect to get idiotic users buying a new PC in 4 years even if they doint need one. If microsoft cant get them idiotic customers, they might start worrying theyd created a horrific monopoly and had nowhere else to go, or, GASP, investigate linux and see if any distros are idiotic customer read. This made microsoft belgiumed, but unless they could raise the hardware requirements for windows 11 AND convince people upgrading was worth it, they had no response. Enter: copilot+ PCs!!! All certified PCs were expensive as all, all of them were wasteful and had high margins, if this wouldnt make the manufacturers happy, nothing would!! Small issue. No one cared. YET AGAIN! NO ONE CARES ANYMORE! In the era of the internet, backwards compatibility, open source, free updates, etc, a new OS version is useless without new features, and copilot is not a feature, the only people who like it are microsoft bootlickers whoโ€™d upgraded their PC within a year of windows 11 coming out like good little corperate drones. This defeats the whole purpose of course, trying to get loyal customers to upgrade every 2 years is bullying, you want people who dont like windows but need it to upgrade all the time., and you want everyone else, loyal or hanging on, on a healthy slow once every 5 years or so. So, microsoft REALLY needs to convince everyone to buy a new PC, its been years since 11 came out, no oneโ€™s upgrading, or if they are theyโ€™re buying a new GPU to put in their old desktop, and GPU sellers dont pay for a windows liscince. what to do? Make a show of ending support for windows 10! Convince everyones grandma theyll get viruses and the best way out of that is to learn to ask AI for help with a new copilot+ PC.

No one cared.Why? This sounds like a good plan, right? Well, the issue is microsoft cant really end support, and everyone knew this. In an era before constant internet access all the time or AI which can turn even the stupidest person into someone able to answer obvious questions (like, the upgrade to vista, which people also hated), people wouldnt have felt safe, and would start thinking about buying a new PC. But everyone now knows, microsoft cannot kill an OS, buisnesses rely on OSes. Businesses matter, they have the ability to start industry trends by switching to mac or linux, they have to pay for commerical liscinces (more expensive), they pay for windows server, and IOT/embeded devices often run windows, those need to be left in a dark corner and forgetten about for a decade and still work (think the XP ATMs youโ€™ve heard about). So, microsoft lets corperations keep using windows, and says, โ€œhey we still have to support it, why dont we try to get some users to give us moneyโ€ and lets people pay to enable extended support. Some idiot let you get it for free and some smart person figured out how to make microsoft think youโ€™ve payed for it (massgrave is your friend, people), so everyone is still on windows 10, or spent the time learning how to make older PCs upgrade to windows 11.

point being, theyโ€™re doing a TERRIBLE time shepherding people these days, its laughable.

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I think I will switch to linux once win10 becomes โ€œunsupportedโ€ (like win7)

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The main reason I havenโ€™t switched to linux yet is my Adobe Creative Suite, and I have actually researched and found replacements for the pieces of that I like, I just havenโ€™t had the time to buy and learn the new software. Also, even if I had the time today, it will be a few months at least before I have the money. Windows 10 sticks around a little longer.

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Btw do you still have updates on your win10?

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I have not switched to linux yet because of the time it would take to learn a completely new OS, and it is the middle of the semester. I am not even remotely a tech person; my grandparents are more tech savvy than me.

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Could you perhaps do that after university?

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If you have space on your hard drive install mint duel boot or in a VM. It sitting there and reminding you to give it a shot is better than nothing, and you could decide to, say, write ypur midterm paper in libreoffice in linux just to force yourself to get comfortable. It isnt really about throwing yourself off the deep end, its about having options when microsofstarts thrashing and windows becomes unviable without giving them 700 million dollars.

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How do I install a VM? Is it easy?

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Install the app VirtualBox, and follow some basic instructions online. You will also need a linux iso to install, i recomend linux mint for beginners, though arch and debian are more educational, and fedora is probably better for you long term, fedora is slow in a vm and arch and debian suck for beginners.

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Didnโ€™t you previously say people should generally avoid debian based distros, including mint?

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No? I dislike how common and overrecomended they are, but they are good. Debian in spicific is very powerfully stable, ubuntu well supported, and mint easy to use. Fedora would be my recomendation for binginners if it were not called fedora (im serious)

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Is Debian as hard as Arch?

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install is much easier but thats a misdirection (also likeโ€ฆ use archinstall, its not hard), it has equivalent depths and if you want to take full advantage of the distro. perhaps more similar to endevourOS than arch? The difficult install is sidestepped but that creates a technical debt later. Debian is much more a stable server OS though, so you wont break anything with installs (a genuine advantage over arch istg). I recommend installing mint, people will tell you when youโ€™re smart enough to switch to debian or arch or whatever distro you want, for me it was managing multiple coexisting filesystems and changing DEs to try and make mint a gaming distro or something idk. After than i bounced from debian to manjaro and then arch (manjaro is so much worse with technical debt, its install is downright deceiving and you need to put work it to make it functional.).

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