Moving to Linux Thread

Do you plan on replacing the trimmed ssds?

no? if it still works, it still works. If they get too small and I run out of space for just adding more I can buy new ones, but even then iโ€™d put the old drives in old computers that i donโ€™t use as heavily, or for a friend or something. just because it doesnโ€™t have a place in my computer doesnโ€™t mean iโ€™m done with it, and honestly I still have space for ssds for the forseeable future

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How fast do the ssds trim themselves?

Itโ€™s almost entirely based on usage. No clue what the rate is but Iโ€™ve likely rewriten a specific entire drive a few times over and lost a little over 10%

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So it can be taken that it isnโ€™t that much of a problem for most timeframes.

I had a drive that had only like 10-11% of its useful lifetime writes used, but the trim started to get extremely slow and all other read operations were also super slow during trimming. That basically made it so that each week when the background trim operation started by computer would be laggy for like two days and sometimes freeze for many seconds. I finally had enough of that and bought a new NVME SSD (from Samsung this time) and now multiple months later the new drive is still way, way better with basically no noticeable performance impact when the drive is running trim in the background. It doesnโ€™t even prevent my computer from entering sleep mode which I thought was just a consequence of running trim, but it seems like maybe Seagate just had really bad SSD firmware or the drive I had was some experimental early product that had a lot of rough edges.

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By the way, I can assume the trimming operation depends on the sort of OS you use, right?

Only how it is scheduled. If your OS didnโ€™t do trimming on an SSD the performance would gradually get worse and in the end youโ€™d have a drive that is slower than even a spinning rust hard drive.

Iโ€™m sure most Windows users are familiar with the OS randomly doing stuff in the background and slowing things down. One of those operations is drive maintenance which includes trimming.

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Do most (popularmost) Linux distros also run such trimming operations in the background?

I sure hope so because any new computer bought now will have an ssd in it. Itโ€™s not an optional feature for an OS to have in 2025.

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I mean, in some certain places derelict OSes can do survive. There are rumors that 90s Windows still function in some power plants of poorer countries for instance.

hehehehehehe yeah Iโ€™ve had the โ€œpleasureโ€ of using a good variety of machines without an ssd in surprisingly recent years. Iโ€™ll say mint handles that state of existence far better than windows 10, which is itself quite a bit better than windows 11, which is about comparable to like windows 8 or linux after you run sudo rm / --nopreserveroot or driving a nail through your spine on purpose.

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Do you think โ€œWindows 12โ€ would be better than 11?

Windows Versions History (Public Perception)

  1. Windows XP - Good
  2. Windows Vista - Bad
  3. Windows 7 - Good
  4. Windows 8 - Bad
  5. Windows 10 - Good
  6. Windows 11 - Bad

Prediction: Windows 12 might be seen as a good OS.

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I wonder what sort of damage would be caused if win12 breaks the cycle and is extra bad or smth

I kind of feel like Microsoft is past caring about the online reaction because people in stores will just keep buying prebuilts with Windows on them. So they probably have no reason to make Windows 12 good, and in fact they will probably completely remove any way to avoid having a Microsoft account.

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How bad would they need to make a new Windows to cause a linux popularity skyrocketing event?

Actually enforcing pricing again, breaking backwards compatibility, I canโ€™t really think of much else. Ads everywhere people donโ€™t even mind I guess

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And the chances of any of that happening in the foreseeable future?

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