Moving to Linux Thread

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

What’s so special about that fedora thing?

[Deathwake (i nuked zenzone and will never let him forget it)]

i tried fedora on a liveUSB the other day. It seemed extremely normal. Kinda reminded me of manjaro but less janky. I also installed arch from the command line, and I actually did it first try, quite quickly, then I hosed my bootloader and it took so long to fix I gave up and used the archinstall script. That worked great but it came iwth less packages than command-line-only debian dear god. It was so bad I had to set up wifi and bluetooth and lots of other stuff. Not even a browser. I get I’m supposed to install stuff myself, thats how you have a 1 gig iso, but it’s just making me miss endevourOS, and I don’t even like endevourOS. I’m considering garuda bc I just want a normal OS that isn’t manjaro that has access to the AUR. I quite like debian but it’s a bit too minimalist for me to look past the fact it has point releases (for my desktop i definitely want a rolling release) and you have to add all these repos yourself.

[blackjacksike (𝕮𝖍𝖆𝖒𝖕𝖎𝖔𝖓 𝖔𝖋 𝖙𝖍𝖊 𝕯𝖊𝖈𝖐𝖆𝖗𝖉)]

LOL

Looks like there’s a skirmish between Fedora and Flathub flatpaks.

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

Do you think the skirmish will soon be fixed?

[Deathwake (i nuked zenzone and will never let him forget it)]

emacs will in fact be available in your system packages i’d bet. just install from there. I tend to avoid flatpaks unless I’m on a debianalike

[blackjacksike (𝕮𝖍𝖆𝖒𝖕𝖎𝖔𝖓 𝖔𝖋 𝖙𝖍𝖊 𝕯𝖊𝖈𝖐𝖆𝖗𝖉)]

I’ve tried emacs and it looks weird. There is no option to create a new file from the program. You can only open existing files. I tried creating one using “Insert new file…” and I wasn’t able to write anything within the file as it was apparently “read-only”.

[Deathwake (i nuked zenzone and will never let him forget it)]

Yeah I don’t use emacs. I plan to learn vim before I die (and not a minute earlier/j) but if i need to edit things in terminal I use nano.

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

@Deathwake

I plan to learn vim before I die (and not a minute earlier/j)

Is there something difficult about learning vim?

[hhyyrylainen]

You can “open” any file path with emacs. Even ones that don’t exist. So to create a new file in emacs you just specify the name and where you want it, then once you save it for the first time the file created.

[Deathwake (i nuked zenzone and will never let him forget it)]

it’s irritating, it and emacs seem to be very, very legacy, which is almost never an uncritical positive. they work very well for some people but i grew up with windows, I’m used to things you can easily explore intuitively to feel things out. you can do that with a TUI, but like, I have in fact corrupted all my system packages, reinstalled my bootloader multiple times, and looked up how to get out of vim. (It’s not even that weird) I feel safer exploring a shall than i do one program I don’t even need. Like I said, I use nano, and even then, when I have to, when I don’t my gui has loads of nice text editors. Maybe if I had to use a TUI i’d get tired of nano and try emacs or vim, but like, no point, i don’t have to.

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

@Deathwake

I have in fact corrupted all my system packages, reinstalled my bootloader multiple times, and looked up how to get out of vim.

How long did going out of vim take?

[AnthropocenianAge (𝒜𝓇𝓉𝒽𝓇𝑜𝓅𝓁𝑒𝓊𝓇𝒶 𝓌𝒶𝓃𝓉𝓈 𝓉𝑜 𝑔𝒾𝓋𝑒 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒶 𝒽𝓊𝑔!)]

Is it easy to install Linux Mint? Are the setups in the Wiki (first post) applicable for all Linux distros?

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

I think @JustaDumbThriver would know a thing or two about Mint.

[JustaDumbThriver (He who has the IQ of a half-eaten Wendy's Baconator(tm))]

I actually am more of a PopOS guy.

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

You did consider Mint at some point though, right?

[AnthropocenianAge (𝒜𝓇𝓉𝒽𝓇𝑜𝓅𝓁𝑒𝓊𝓇𝒶 𝓌𝒶𝓃𝓉𝓈 𝓉𝑜 𝑔𝒾𝓋𝑒 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒶 𝒽𝓊𝑔!)]

Can Linux Mint still play games, or is PopOS better for that?

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

I recall both OSes are “for beginners”, with pop being more oriented to games.

[JustaDumbThriver (He who has the IQ of a half-eaten Wendy's Baconator(tm))]

PopOS is definitely better. Mint is more focused on user-friendliness, although both ARE beginner distros.

[AnthropocenianAge (𝒜𝓇𝓉𝒽𝓇𝑜𝓅𝓁𝑒𝓊𝓇𝒶 𝓌𝒶𝓃𝓉𝓈 𝓉𝑜 𝑔𝒾𝓋𝑒 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒶 𝒽𝓊𝑔!)]

From my preliminary web search, it appears Mint can also be used for playing games. I only play Minecraft and Thrive, and neither are really that hardware intensive.

Isn’t Pop! OS undergoing a major change at making Cosmic, which might affect its stability for a while?

[hhyyrylainen]

Linux Mint has very outdated packages, which on Linux means also outdated graphics drivers, which can often lead to bad gaming performance or even your GPU not working at all if you have a too new one.

So I’m against suggesting Linux Mint to beginners who are interested in gaming. Almost everything else will be a better experience. Going with something simple like PopOS or Bazzite if you want to primarily game is a better idea in my opinion. AFAIK both of those have very simple to use installers. I think most distros have good graphical installers now, but way back Fedora was one of the few distros that had a good, easy-to-use installer.