Hello. I played chemosynthesis and photosynthesis cells and discover odd auto-evo prognoses. When I played chemosynthesis cell in vulcano, my population permanently increased, excluded moments when I died. But when I played photosynthesis cell in warm lake, amount of my population begin decrease after some moment. How I understand my cells died at reason of glucose deficite. But it haven’t sense. My cell can’t die at reason of glucose deficite because it product glucose via photosynthesis and its component balance is positive. Final amount of population by auto-evo will be some thousands. Thus my game process likes surrealistic: I can just to do nothing and reproduce, but thousands of my other cells die. Why auto-evo prepares this great extinction of my autotrophic organisms?
There is a limited amount of energy available from sunlight in each patch. This means as there’s more and more competition from other sunlight-using species your species’ share of the energy gets smaller. That effectively sets a maximum population on photosynthesising species. The reason why sunlight is limited is that it makes physical sense that if the entire surface of an ocean is filled with photosynthesizing cells, then there isn’t any more room in the light for more cells to capture sunlight.
This actually raises the question whether the amount of (photosynthesizing) cells in a patch should lower the amount of sunlight the player has access to in-gameplay. That sounds like it would be quite difficult both to balance and deal with as a player, however.
Thanks for advice. But I realized other strategy: my six-segments cells beginned extinct and I step by step deleted all elements except 1 tilacoide. My population quickly increased and continue increase to over 200k. (On hard difficulty)
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Small organisms are very powerful. It’s just a matter of scale. With the same resources, becoming twice the size will mean there’s only half as many of you - even if the only change is going from 1 thylakoid to 2.
Nevertheless, auto-evo is definitely absolutely broken in the respect that the player is consistently predicted to fail even though the player easily survives in an actual run, which results in the unfortunate side-effect of it being impossible to maintain a species foothold in any patch you aren’t currently in, incentivising monopatching.
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aah31415
(The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)
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This has been a thing ever since the miche auto-evo was introduced, before that you had these large blob cells of various elements floating around.
When it comes to the player, there is definitely some extra tweaking needed in relations to the auto-evo system, especially as the player species functions on a seperate set of rules than the auto-evo species. If the player species used the same system, it would in most cases very quickly die due to not occupying any miche.
aah31415
(The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)
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Yeah, it’s simplified because if thrive was to simulate actual niches, it would greatly reduce the performance of the game. Pretty sure a similar system of niche-like categories was first used in Thim’s “Atoms and Time” autoevo game.
