or confine it right and not make it massive enough to kill us
but if you’re trying to make it light enough to carry, it’d also need to be created in the container which it’s confined in, since if its confinement breaks, it would immediately explode hard enough to scorch half the earth, and cause an earthquake of at least magnitude 11(assuming somewhere in the decagram range), if on the earth when it explodes, since evaporating a black hole is a 100% efficient way to turn mass into energy
and we’d also need to make sure the black hole’s confinement is perfectly reflective to the wavelength the black hole emits, since you’re basically trying to confine an explosion on the level of a matter-antimatter annhilation with the mass of the ringularity, constantly
however, a black hole with the earth’s mass would last 1.8 * 10⁵⁸ seconds, or 1.3698630137 * 10⁵² years, which is far more than long enough to confine without worrying about effectively trying to contain an antimatter bomb that’s constantly exploding(and you only need it to last 1 second to do that), and it’d release the equivalent of 4.35956e-28 kg every second, or 1.3069632082x10¹⁹ watts[1], so it’s cold enough you don’t even have to worry about the energy it puts off(you only have to start after it reaches somewhere well over 5), so you can probably use a ringularity weighing only 10¹⁰ kg [2], and 10¹⁰ kg is small enough you could theoretically survive near it, and assuming TO goes through the center of a ringularity with a diameter of 6 ft, they would experience an average of 54.31 newtons towards the edges of the portal, while going through its center(though, that’s calculated using point masses, so it’d probably be less, and whatever diameter for a cylindrical segment of the ring’s confinement lets TO not lose a leg by stepping on it[3] could be used to make sure the portal is traversable(probably means that portals will be at least several meters wide, if living creatures are supposed to pass through, though 10¹⁰ might still be a bit heavy for a black hole in a portal, and a 1d mass will necessarily be less dense, and thus have less gravitational pull, than a 0d mass)
though, that does still leave you with the problem of getting something that light to form a black hole in the first place
tho it’s probably less, since that’s the average over its whole life ↩︎
for reference, using point charges, at 0.8m from a singularity weighing 1¹⁰kg, TO would experience an average of 70.95 newtons, so that’s probably gonna be the minor diameter of the confinement for a ringularity with said mass(but again, the math was done using point masses, rather than with circular and point masses, so it’s probably way less than that) ↩︎
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I think BH manipulation would only come in the late days of this FG…
fair
it is fairly simple to crush charged particles into a charged ringularity tho, which means you can manipulate it the same way you would a plasma
with magnets
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That would probably require TO to have control over CERN…
Edit: @willow@Centarian@Nigel@Trappist-1e@domin2ktr CatSquared has not been seen in the forum for nearly 2 months now, do we proceed with the next round(s) without them or wait? (NOTE: CatSquared has previously left the forum for a month before returning)
Wait for CatSquared
Proceed with the round
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ONLY MEMBERS OF THIS FORUM GAME MAY VOTE IN THIS POLL.
By this I meant that you need to submit an extra vote relating to the jets like an extra minor mutation from a roll of 6 on a mutation. So you basically have an extra mutation vote for this round.
Though microscopic integration failed at the noon of this grand day, some things reaching far beyond that did succeed, even more than expected for a few. Besides that, a strange slowdown in the amount of activity and mutations was also felt, as if something has left the body of TO’s…
The Organism Report
TO has been preparing to integrate some unicellular materials into itself for a while, but just as it was getting ready to ingest some microbes, it noticed that the samples of those biological materials were missing. It seems like some ants have taken them away thinking it was trash and dumped them somewhere. Unfortunately the ant could not find the samples again, even accidentally stepping on some glass when searching for them (-50 H), but it did notice an another pond that might just have a GSB populace. However the noon called TO to do what it likes to do all the time - build the tower up! This time around the hurt foot however would hinder it’s ability to work at heights with much material at it’s back, causing the progress this session to be stunted (+100 Tower Meters).
Knowing space might be a key to securing it’s global dominance, TO seems to have steered it’s spiracles to mutate further, now being able to bend much more than previously and additionally control the expelling of gas better. There still seem to be plenty of mutagenic cells in that organ ready to take new forms… (+50 MH, +50 ME, @Trappist-1e Please submit two extra-mutations [one of which has the power of minor-mutations and the other of a regular mutation] relating to the spiracles and/or 0g movement.)
The ant’s egg-producing capabilities have been rather down lately as the nest became strangely enough independent of TO in terms of replication, but a powerful new mutation may change that - it seems like Egg production can now be done at a neckbreaking speed, rivalling even the one of termite queens, and perhaps a new caste is soon to emerge… (Can Produce More Eggs, @domin2ktr please submit a minor mutation relating to reproduction and/or a new caste).
Influence Report
Being certain going to space is possible now, the ant has sent some modified scouts up above, with a rather outlandish goal of taking over some geostationary satellites. The scouts would go far above the karman line, but one by one, they would experience dramatic deaths. Despite the goal not being reached, some did manage to reach the heights at around which the ISS orbits…
Having the militaries of multiple countries fused into one, the ant and the diplomats in charge of the armies decided to research military technologies with their wonderful abilities. It didn’t take long before the arms factories in those central-american countries began producing much-upgraded weapon types and vehicles. Though replacing old weapons will take a while, this already improves the military situation of the Formic Union (FU will become 3x stronger over the following 7 [in-game] days).
Even more scouts were released from the incubators into the ever-growing army of ants which seems to have no goals here…
RESULTS
-50 H, +100 Tower Meters, +50 MH, +50 ME, Can Produce More Eggs, FU will become 3x stronger over the following 7 [in-game] days
TO Statistics
ARMOUR - 475
HEALTH - 8803/8803
STRENGTH - 7366
RESOURCES - 1536/1536 (-150 R from Mutations, used 100 R to regenerate 300 E) [+11200 R in hiding]
ENERGY - 4650/4900 (-275 E from actions)
SIZE - ~5M
PASSIVES: (1.5XSM)H/R, (1.5XSM)R/R
ACTION ABILITIES: Voice Mimic Other Statistics
FORCES AT NEST: 13X4Q, 4X2Q, 3X5Q, 1X7QHC
HUMAN KNOWLEDGE - 3
POLITICAL POWER TIER - INTERMEDIATE COUNTRY
INFLUENCE - INTERNATIONAL
HUMAN POPULATION ~ 6099999799
COUNTRY POPULATION ~ 5099850
KILLS - 201 PEOPLE (TO - 26, NON-TO - 175)
INCOME - 725 | MONEY - 67150
KNOWLEDGE: Electric Animals, Boats, Better Boats, Bit Better Boats, Electricity, Magnet Stuff, Small Boat Upgrade, Superior Boats, Cellular Metabolism, Fiber Optics Mastery, Ultimate CPUA Knowledge, Basic Propulsion Knowledge, Basic Antimatter Knowledge, Basic Rocketry Knowledge, GSB Knowledge, Moderate Rocketry Knowledge, Space Ant Idea, C. Tepidum and Yeast Habitat Knowledge, 0G movement, Ultimate NLC Knowledge, Basic Satellite Knowledge
ITEMS: -
TOWER HEIGHT = ~1575 Meters (+100 meters since last round, stability secured up to 2575 [4/6, +50] meters)
SCOUT PRODUCTION: 2X4Q AT R55, 1X2Q AT R55, 1X4Q at R52, 1X5Q AT R52
Spiracle Propulsion
Combustion Chambers
Better Fuel
0G Movement Spiracles
Utility M
Oleic Acid Secretion
More Oleic Acid Production
Tentacles
Better Tentacles
Color Shifting
Higher Egg Production Rate
Better Healing (R to H ratio now 1:2.5)
Better Energy Production (now 1:3)
Cuteness
False Charisma
More Cuteness
Hemoglobin Marrow
Extra Cuteness
Gene-Stealing Claws
Passive Healing ((1/2 Size Multiplier)H/R)
Backup Eggs
Substance Mimicry
Better Digging Abilities
Anti-Human Camouflage
Confusion Chemical
Capsid Organ x2
Colour Camouflage
Adrenaline Glands
Camouflage
Tower Action Improvement (100% chance that tower-related actions get boosted by 1 point)
Test Organ (Rolls of “1” no longer possible on mutation votes, gives every mutation extra ((1/4XSM)R))
Extra Tower Action Improvement (100% chance that tower-related actions get boosted by a 2nd point)
Extra Extra Tower Action Improvement (1/6 chance that tower-related actions get boosted by a 3rd point)
Test Organ Upgrade (Rolls of 7 now a thing for mutations)
Research Techniques (1/2 reroll chance to research actions of 1)
Research Tactics (Research Actions of 1 no longer possible)
Research Focus (Research Actions of 7 possible)
Democratic Violence (Violent Acts have a perfectly inversed system of approval & rejection)
Can Produce More Eggs
Brain/Sensory M
Better Pheromones
Better Antennae
“Bipolar Disorder”
More Neurons
Smaller Neurons x2
Less Neuron Feedback
Vocal Cords
Inability to Hate or Be Angry
Empathy x2
Larger Brain
Language Lobe
More Intelligence x11
Voice organ
Whiskers
Cat Ears
Big Eyes
Voice Throwing
Cerebral Structures in lower body
Mutation Commanding
ENs
Constant Scout Communication
Better Voice
Better Neurons x2
Better Speech
Trap Trigger Detection
Wifi Antennae
Browsing Ganglia
Wifi Hotspot
Better Brainmatter in Lower Body
Better Logical Abilities
Better Language
Hivemind
Night Sight
Geometry Ganglion
Sweet Baking Neurons
Sweet Tastebuds
Better Sugar Tastebuds
Endosymbiotic Neuron External Power
Evolving Tissue
Radiation Sickness Resistance
More Radiation Resistance
EVEN MORE Radiation Resistance
Lead in Cells
Cell Freedom
DNA destruction
Stronger Muscles
Sulferreducens Genes: Electricity, Nanowires, Reduction of sulfur and metal
Mitochondrion Electricity Usage
Caste M
Being a Queen
New Caste
Photosyntesis Queen-like Caste
Trap Caste
Scout Caste
Silk Ants
Assymetrical Poison Trap Child
Pipe Caste
Soil-Eaters (+(Size Multiplier) R per Round)
Miner Caste
Pipe Caste Bio Optic Fiber
Stomach Caste
Diplomat Caste
Better Diplomats
Food-to-Children Caste
Faster Healing + Healer Caste ((5/4 Size Multiplier)H/R)Scout Reproduction
Better Healers ((3/2 Size Multiplier)H/R)
Scout Colonies
4-Tentacled Big Worker
Tiny Winged Caste
Alternator Caste
GP Caste
Hive Caste
Tower Builder Caste
Bone Weaver Caste
Flesh Weaver Caste
Miscellaneous M
ET Glands
Eggs Steal Stuff From Cells
Be Yellowish-Blue
Size Increase x3 (to ~32cm)
Size Increase (to ~64cm)
Size Increase (to ~256cm)
Size Increase (to ~7.5 meters)
Cat Features
Size Decrease (to ~2 meters)
Armour Patterns
Humanoid Shape
Femminine Features
Humanoid Upper Body
Hair
More Humanoid
Larger Size (up to ~4 meters)
Research Decay
Silk
Corrosive Web
Exoskeleton Color Change
A Bit Bigger
Dropdown Mutation List Box
(Credit for pre-round 26 mutations in here goes to willow)
World Map
TO location: South of Reserva Natural Sierra Quirragua, near Matiguas, Central Nicaragua (Now Formic Union)
Notable Influence:
-Formic Union (Direct Control, +4 Stability, FU will become 3x stronger over the following 7 [in-game] days)
-USA (colony country, Regional influence)
-Brazil (colony country, no real influence)
-France (colony country, no real influence)
-Egypt (colony country, no real influence)
(Light Restrictions = ants will be blocked from entering and expanding, Heavy Restrictions = ants will be sought after and destroyed, ACC = Ant Containment Coalition member state)
if nobody responds to to an edit pinging everyone who plays the game then it is fully excusable to make a new post pinging everyone in the game
A: sigh with exasperation at the deaths of all the ants we sent up, and look at how they died, and do some research and theorizing to figure out how to make them more resilient against the things they died to
M: better experimentation tactics and mouth pocket for storing important samples
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aah31415
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I feel like Hhyyrylainen wouldn’t be very happy about that, I don’t want to take such risks…
The ant has focused quite the lot on the cosmic stuff this timeperiod around, and it seems like it’s also gearing up for an actual war… if that comes through.
The Organism Report
Having felt the taste of an unexpected storage-related defeat, the ant decided to try and not have this happen again in the future by creating a pocket in it’s mouth where a few such samples as the ones lost around the noon could fit inside. The whole chamber of TO’s was reorganized so that experiments in there could be carried out in a more professional, profound way (+100 MH). The stay amongst the strange nest those mutated children of it’s have built would not last long however as the time came to, once again like every six or so hours, build the mighty tower up. Some more height was secured than the last day, though it can be felt that sooner or later the structure might become much harder to elongate even further, while the stability ants have trouble getting to the upper layers of the build from the intense winds up there (+125 Tower Meters).
Being up there TO also remembered about the failure of the ant mission for satellite takeovers, and decided to perhaps have a look at the sort of fuel used by the space ants. As it turns out this substance still has many places for improvement, with a mutation soon followed by it’s distorted kin having the purposeforce of the high ants definitely improved when it comes to the amount of velocity generated by the thrusters (+50 MH, +75 ME). This look at the celestial affairs also made the ant think about how to increase the survivability of those arthropods that made it no further than ISS. TO would end up concluding that the ants were likely killed by the heat from the fuel burning deteriorating their thruster structures, eventually resulting in a lethal explosion. With this knowledge the fix was relatively easy to make, which should hopefully reduce the chances of such an unscheduled disassembly occurring much lower. This whole space mission fixing affair would last until nearly the set of the sun, and so the ant realized that for the future it will need some ants to command it’s space missions, much like the diplomats command it’s political intrigues. A caste of scientists and commanders for the great beyond was soon created, though it certainly arrived in a bad shape, not yet ready to really carry space missions all by itself yet (+25 MH, +25 ME).
The Ant has also been keen looking at the incubator ants that are soon to deliver the next batch of ants onto the growing army loyal to the mutated ant queen, and decided that perhaps an ant caste devoted to “regular” reproduction of ants should also be created. This unlike the commander caste went as smoothly as it could have, producing an excellent caste with no flaws, and even with much extra potential (+100 MH, @domin2ktr please submit an extra mutation relating to reproduction)!
Influence Report
TO, perhaps having become more certain of the strength of the combined forces of it’s “conquered” countries, still reassembling for new needs though, decided to organize them at the borders of the union that forms a landstrip. Guatemala, El Salvador and Columbia are worried - though for now the order is only a preparation as the attack command must first be approved…
RESULTS
+275 MH, +125 TM, +100 ME, Fixed Space Ants, Army at border
TO Statistics
ARMOUR - 475
HEALTH - 8953/9078
STRENGTH - 7366
RESOURCES - 1536/1536 (-200 R from Mutations, used 200 R to regenerate 600 E) [+12175 R in hiding]
ENERGY - 4875/5000 (-375 E from actions)
SIZE - ~5M
PASSIVES: (1.5XSM)H/R, (1.5XSM)R/R
ACTION ABILITIES: Voice Mimic Other Statistics
FORCES AT NEST: 13X4Q, 4X2Q, 3X5Q, 1X7QHC
HUMAN KNOWLEDGE - 3
POLITICAL POWER TIER - INTERMEDIATE COUNTRY
INFLUENCE - INTERNATIONAL
HUMAN POPULATION ~ 6099999799
COUNTRY POPULATION ~ 5099850
KILLS - 201 PEOPLE (TO - 26, NON-TO - 175)
INCOME - 725 | MONEY - 90325
KNOWLEDGE: Electric Animals, Boats, Better Boats, Bit Better Boats, Electricity, Magnet Stuff, Small Boat Upgrade, Superior Boats, Cellular Metabolism, Fiber Optics Mastery, Ultimate CPUA Knowledge, Basic Propulsion Knowledge, Basic Antimatter Knowledge, Basic Rocketry Knowledge, GSB Knowledge, Moderate Rocketry Knowledge, Space Ant Idea, C. Tepidum and Yeast Habitat Knowledge, 0G movement, Ultimate NLC Knowledge, Basic Satellite Knowledge
ITEMS: -
TOWER HEIGHT = ~1700 Meters (+125 meters since last round, stability secured up to 2650 [5/6, +75] meters)
SCOUT PRODUCTION: 2X4Q AT R55, 1X2Q AT R55, 1X4Q at R52, 1X5Q AT R52
Spiracle Propulsion
Combustion Chambers
Better Fuel
0G Movement Spiracles
Utility M
Oleic Acid Secretion
More Oleic Acid Production
Tentacles
Better Tentacles
Color Shifting
Higher Egg Production Rate
Better Healing (R to H ratio now 1:2.5)
Better Energy Production (now 1:3)
Cuteness
False Charisma
More Cuteness
Hemoglobin Marrow
Extra Cuteness
Gene-Stealing Claws
Passive Healing ((1/2 Size Multiplier)H/R)
Backup Eggs
Substance Mimicry
Better Digging Abilities
Anti-Human Camouflage
Confusion Chemical
Capsid Organ x2
Colour Camouflage
Adrenaline Glands
Camouflage
Tower Action Improvement (100% chance that tower-related actions get boosted by 1 point)
Test Organ (Rolls of “1” no longer possible on mutation votes, gives every mutation extra ((1/4XSM)R))
Extra Tower Action Improvement (100% chance that tower-related actions get boosted by a 2nd point)
Extra Extra Tower Action Improvement (1/6 chance that tower-related actions get boosted by a 3rd point)
Test Organ Upgrade (Rolls of 7 now a thing for mutations)
Research Techniques (1/2 reroll chance to research actions of 1)
Research Tactics (Research Actions of 1 no longer possible)
Research Focus (Research Actions of 7 possible)
Democratic Violence (Violent Acts have a perfectly inversed system of approval & rejection)
Can Produce More Eggs
Brain/Sensory M
Better Pheromones
Better Antennae
“Bipolar Disorder”
More Neurons
Smaller Neurons x2
Less Neuron Feedback
Vocal Cords
Inability to Hate or Be Angry
Empathy x2
Larger Brain
Language Lobe
More Intelligence x11
Voice organ
Whiskers
Cat Ears
Big Eyes
Voice Throwing
Cerebral Structures in lower body
Mutation Commanding
ENs
Constant Scout Communication
Better Voice
Better Neurons x2
Better Speech
Trap Trigger Detection
Wifi Antennae
Browsing Ganglia
Wifi Hotspot
Better Brainmatter in Lower Body
Better Logical Abilities
Better Language
Hivemind
Night Sight
Geometry Ganglion
Sweet Baking Neurons
Sweet Tastebuds
Better Sugar Tastebuds
Endosymbiotic Neuron External Power
Evolving Tissue
Radiation Sickness Resistance
More Radiation Resistance
EVEN MORE Radiation Resistance
Lead in Cells
Cell Freedom
DNA destruction
Stronger Muscles
Sulferreducens Genes: Electricity, Nanowires, Reduction of sulfur and metal
Mitochondrion Electricity Usage
Caste M
Being a Queen
New Caste
Photosyntesis Queen-like Caste
Trap Caste
Scout Caste
Silk Ants
Assymetrical Poison Trap Child
Pipe Caste
Soil-Eaters (+(Size Multiplier) R per Round)
Miner Caste
Pipe Caste Bio Optic Fiber
Stomach Caste
Diplomat Caste
Better Diplomats
Food-to-Children Caste
Faster Healing + Healer Caste ((5/4 Size Multiplier)H/R)Scout Reproduction
Better Healers ((3/2 Size Multiplier)H/R)
Scout Colonies
4-Tentacled Big Worker
Tiny Winged Caste
Alternator Caste
GP Caste
Hive Caste
Tower Builder Caste
Bone Weaver Caste
Flesh Weaver Caste
Miscellaneous M
ET Glands
Eggs Steal Stuff From Cells
Be Yellowish-Blue
Size Increase x3 (to ~32cm)
Size Increase (to ~64cm)
Size Increase (to ~256cm)
Size Increase (to ~7.5 meters)
Cat Features
Size Decrease (to ~2 meters)
Armour Patterns
Humanoid Shape
Femminine Features
Humanoid Upper Body
Hair
More Humanoid
Larger Size (up to ~4 meters)
Research Decay
Silk
Corrosive Web
Exoskeleton Color Change
A Bit Bigger
Dropdown Mutation List Box
(Credit for pre-round 26 mutations in here goes to willow)
World Map
TO location: South of Reserva Natural Sierra Quirragua, near Matiguas, Central Nicaragua (Now Formic Union)
Notable Influence:
-Formic Union (Direct Control, +4 Stability, FU will become 3x stronger over the following 7 in-game days (MAY 15 12:00), Army At Borders)
-USA (colony country, Regional influence)
-Brazil (colony country, no real influence)
-France (colony country, no real influence)
-Egypt (colony country, no real influence)
(Light Restrictions = ants will be blocked from entering and expanding, Heavy Restrictions = ants will be sought after and destroyed, ACC = Ant Containment Coalition member state)
M: molecular chemistry and protein folding lobe in physics ganglion
A: research the production and storage of methane and oxygen, eventually coming across the sabatier reaction and CO2 sorbent wheels, as well as bacterial methanogenesis, and plan out a modified chlorobaculum cell with:
wall: impermeable borosilicate with holes only for pumps, around outer membrane
new proteins:
inner membrane protein, uses
to produce methane and oxygen, while keeping the environment of the cell anoxic.
part of the chlorosome complex, atp is produced by pumping H+ into the periplasm.
hema iron stays in the intermembrane space
outer membrane protein, uses =C-(OH)2 groups to grab CO2 and pull it inside the cell wall
outer membrane protein, pulls anoxic hema iron inside the cell wall
outer membrane protein, pulls oxygenated hema iron out of the cell wall
outer membrane protein, provides a path for CH4 specifically, and nothing else, to diffuse freely in and out of the cell through it
inner membrane protein, burns CH4 with O2 from hema iron to pump H+ into periplasm if atp drops below a certain concentration
membrane protein, binds free O2 to heme iron and releases the oxygenated hema iron
outer membrane protein, provides multiple paths for water to flow into and out of the cell
outer membrane protein, mineralizes Si(OH)4 with boron on the outer surface of the outer membrane
and carve the modifications i wish to make to the chlorobaculum tepidum onto a stone tablet for later
inner membrane protein, burns H2 with oxygen from periplasmic hema iron
membrane protein, uses CH4 and O2, to produce methanol, which is more soluble in water, due to being polar
remove proteins for producing and using glucose, and replace them with analogous ones that use CH4 and Oxygen from heme FeO2 to build molecules one carbon atom at a time
(this action is intended to buff the roll for when i apply the modification to the bacteria. hema iron is the name i’m using to refer to heme iron that has been modified so some hydrogens are instead OH groups, to make it water soluble)
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aah31415
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928
I don’t think you have GSB cells since the samples were lost?
