doomlightning
(The Invisible Aztec Dodo Overgod of Thrive and everything else. Semi-professor of botany and avid plant and bacteria abuser.)
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Okay, I did this again!
After a test in organic chemistry, temporary asynchrony between different computers, crisis of identities and differences, in honor of the game jam I joined. I created the game most do not know: “My point”.
Feel free to check it out.
Besides, it was a bit of a nightmare to end it because a lot of things happened, but at least you can play it (it’s only in black and white).
All the things in this game I came out with: drawing, programming and music! (build iin godot)
it was a nightmere to finish it all in 6 hours… itlist i pround on that
(internally scream in the inside to finish my work here)
I think this game is good because of its simplicity, and ease of getting used to.
When I started playing, i eventually learned that i needed to click where the particles are going to go, and got to score 513.
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doomlightning
(The Invisible Aztec Dodo Overgod of Thrive and everything else. Semi-professor of botany and avid plant and bacteria abuser.)
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i think i did it very hard even if it very simple XD
Could you send me the encrypted message? I may try to see what it says. Also, happy first human in space day and day of the adoption of the first Union flag of Great Britain!
Just a quick science question: I was thinking about hypothetical biochemistries earlier, and I was wondering if there was a reason specifically ATP is used as energy in our chemical reactions? From what I understand, breaking the bond of an ATP provides energy from the split (and results in an ADP). Couldn’t any other split result in the same amount of energy, or am I missing something? Is this just a case of evolutions ‘whatever works,’ or is there a reason specifically ATP (ex. Does it’s bonds contain more energy than most other molecules?)?
Deathwake
(i nuked zenzone and will never let him forget it)
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I’m sure there’s a spicific reason, but it’s a simple molecule, made from common elements, that works well, and changing over would be a huge hassle. Also it’s very, very close to sugars, which were common around LUCA’s time and environment, and are easy to make, allowing it to be gathered easily in a common form, and stored long term in an even more energy dense form. Edit: the closeness of glucose and atp let’s one be turned into the other at a stable exchange rate for very little energy, thought I should clarify that.
A quick google search shows me that that is guanine-tri-phosphate, which makes me wonder if there is an ATP analog for every other nitrogenous base?
Anyway thanks for the help deathwake, I wasn’t sure if there was any super specific reason it is used in our biochemistry, and now I know.
I started my xenobiology project a while back, but am slowly increasingly realizing just how much work would go into making a single alternate biochemistry, much less 90. I had heard and accepted that I would have to rewrite the biology textbook, but I hadn’t realized how big the book was!
Deathwake
(i nuked zenzone and will never let him forget it)
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If instead of glucose being super common in your LUCA’s backyard something close to GTP was that could work, yeah. Also most likely such a lifeform would utilize more rna and less DNA.
This is on the topic of sapient plants, but since it is nowhere near complete or fully fleshed out idea I won’t clutter that thread;
I’ve been reading up on articles about the intelligence of plants, and a lot of what I’m reading is saying that there is already significant evidence for plants being sentient on Earth. (There’s even a whole scientific field on plant neurology)
What I’m reading says plants are able to recognize other plants from themselves (a sense of self), and also recognize plants that are of their own species. Their root tips act as a decentralized neural system, each functioning similar to neurons, able to recognize different chemical inputs. And though much more underdeveloped than ours, plants can ‘see’ us and other animals with their photoreceptors, and are able to move (slowly) and perform ‘acts of kindness and kinship.’
Just thought that it was really interesting and thought I would share it, though more fact checking is necessary
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Deathwake
(i nuked zenzone and will never let him forget it)
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Edit: A link to one of the ‘articles’ I am reading. This is a blog post, so I am taking everything with a bucket of salt, and aim to find a much more scientific source, but figured I would share. I’m not just going off of this, though this is the most extensive. Again, not a scientific paper or anything though.
Just kidding. But I think that sentience requires more than reaction to stimuli. A good way to tell whether an entity is sentient is to determine whether they are capable of emotions. For instance, animals feel emotions (e.g. wrath, fear, love, etc.), thus they are sentient.
It doesn’t really require a brain to be able to recognize others from oneself. Any cell capable of analyzing foreign DNA/RNA should be able to recognize intruders and different species. Also, recognizing chemical inputs could also be explained by the fact that plants have a kind of “hormone” system (I don’t remember the real name for it, though) to regulate their metabolism.
That is actually wrong, being setient means that you are capable of recieving stimuli from outside. Many people equal setience to intelligence, but that is wrong, just like passing the turing test would not imply intelligence but just the capability to replicate human behaviour.
No, that completely defies the whole purpose of lenguage
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Deathwake
(i nuked zenzone and will never let him forget it)
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I agree with both of you. We can define things our our way but we have to make sure it doesn’t break English. As such we need to clarify what definition we are using.
