Thrive Universe - Science Thread


#1

Thought we could use a thread to discuss suspension of disbelief in the Thrive Universe, as well as what is and is not overpowered. Granted, @StealthStyle has the final say on things, but discussion helps achieve consensus and avoid disputes.

To get things started, here are some techs I was interested in the Directorate at least making some headway into, both of which assume FTL communication is possible:

  • Spacetime Radar: This attempts to use one-way FTL energy projections to detect the presence of vessels in systems where the only surveillance is distant telescopes (by the time light reaches them, the vessels would have left). This could theoretically be done by using streams of “tether” particles to bring the transmitted waves back to the transmitter, allowing an image to be obtained from how quickly the waves were reflected.
  • Warp Artillery: Large weapons need large ships to hold them. However, having to share room, power, and heat dispersal with equally-scaled FTL drives, sublight thusters, and other systems makes fielding them difficult. Instead, high-intensity beams could be transmitted by the same principles as FTL communication, mounted onto immense artillery batteries that, unlike warships, are most effective when not present in the actual battle. If using the above “radar” is infeasible, then ships in the battle itself could serve as spotters, sending the firing coordinates to the battery directly. Alternatively, unique “spotter drones” could grip the target’s hull, then relay their own location (i.e. the target’s) to the battery.

(He who abuses the search function) #2

The question is though, which FTL-method are we going to use? Because things like these will not work for something like the warp-drive (The FTL-method used in Star Trek, which works something like this: When activated, the warp-drive will teleport the ship to a different dimension, where going FTL is possible (I think, might be wrong))


#3

Actually, warp manipulates spacetime around a mass so that it can travel faster than light without actually breaching lightspeed, since speed becomes relative (more than usual, at least). Or you can be like the Glinderrac and just bring the destination closer to you (again, relatively), AKA use wormholes.

What you’re thinking of is hyperspace, the kind of FTL used in Star Wars. Ironically, it’s called “the Warp” in Warhammer 40k, which can be slightly confusing.


(DoctorSupernova) #4

So…
Any technology is accepted or only FTL Comms?


(He who abuses the search function) #5
Star Wars The Last Jedi spoiler

Wait… if the hyperspace idea comes from Star Wars, then how was the FTL-ram scene possible? it would be pretty difficult to ram someone while being in another dimension. Was it just one of those “screw physics” moments?


(Δф - Delta Phi) #6

It could be due to an overlap of warpspace and realspace created by the drive, which would separate on a longer journey.
However, these tactics are hindered by the ranges at which spacecraft fight, and if we’re going with mito’s “warp artillery” concept, you might not see it except in late in the stage, where ships are much more profuse.


(Askyw) #7

I think the use of large artillery batteries in space would be possible, but not for ship on ship fights. Imagine using a Barret .50 Cal to try and kill a fly. You aren’t going to hit it directly but the shockwave coming from the bullet might kill the fly and if you did manage to hit the fly with the bullet itself that bug is just completely gone. Not to mention the fact that in order to move something of serious mass in space you would need a lot of fuel just to aim the damn thing let alone fire it. And if you were to set up the battery at a long enough distance to compensate for this downside you would be so far away that by the time your shot hit its mark the ship would be long gone or would have changed course. So while something of this magnitude would be possible to make it would mainly be effective as an orbital cannon that can annihilate any target on the planet’s surface or used on other “static” objects like a mothership’s mothership. (things that can’t avoid the shot) No matter what you do this type of weapon would be more like a bomber in WWII and be surrounded by fighter planes because it can’t fight them on it’s own.

Summary

This tech would only be useful for species that want to conquer other advanced creatures’ planets


(Necromancer of posts) #8

There is a thread about FTL where I pointed out an idea for FTL.
Would be quite complicated to implement though.


(𝒦𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝑜𝒻 𝒯𝒽𝒾𝓃𝑔𝓈) #9

What about something like Minecraft’s Nether, where if you go inside, you travel farther distances in the overworld if you hook up portals around the map.

So this could essentially be done in a FTL situation, you enter another dimension where distances are different compared to each other, and then drop back into the main dimension and there you have it.


(The Collector Of Useless Information) #10

U described warp travel and us humans have done it but with a single atom :disappointed:


#11

BowlDawg was referring to something more like hyperspace than warp travel (read my post further above, replying to Omicron).