It should have been obious that I wasn’t using them in their full traditional meaning. A non facist democracy can be those things too.
Monarchy: There is no infighting.
Oligarchy: There is infighting
Do you think that bureaucrats always have a saying in the decisions of the ruler? They don’t.
this is how infighting is prevented
an absolute monarchy is a government in which the monarch has unrestrained control over the three powers of the state.
monarch+bureaucracy (ruling class) has (theoreticly) infinite authority, but in practice, they don’t. They can’t order the peasents to do anything.
An absolute monarchy has never existed in history
First of all, this is completely irrelevant.
I went on that tangent because I reference absolute power 3 sentences later.
No, quite the contrary, fascism wants to enforce hierarchies, why did you think that fascism is statalist and nationalist?
I didn’t think that all the ideologies that are called facist in real life wanted to abolish hierarchies. I defined a hypotetical word spelled as “facism” that means “abolishing hierarchies” . I think it is a useful word and it fits the etymology of facism.
Authoritarianism is a political system characterized by a controlling government and the rejection of democracy, human rights, and political plurality. It involves the use of strong central power to preserve the political status quo, and reductions in the rule of law, separation of powers, and democratic voting.
In authoritarianism there is a clear division between the ruling class and other classes, and the ruling class has absolute powers over the other classes
It just lists things authoriterianism is associated with. Authority just means power and power can be used to maintain or abolish hierarchies.
An authoritarian state will enforce its hierarchies because that’s literally what the ruling class uses to rule
Lets say that there is a democracy and it keeps being a democracy
If the rulers are elected, it wouldn’t be permenant so there wouldn’t be a ruler class.
If elections stop, the ideology may look exactly like the previous ideology(such as facism) and it could still be popular for the time being but the ones in charge would start to form a ruling class.
also, fascism is authoritarian, as such it can’t “only exist in democracies”.
“removal of hierarchies” is “uses force”, as such it exists only in “when there is no ruling class that would oppose the removal of hierarchies”
and also different cultures because if people see each other as different their relationships can become hierarchical ↩︎
Use the actual fascism instead of creating an ideology that has beliefs that are both
Yeah, if people talk about a specific ideology using the definition of that is very much required. If people want to talk about authoritarianism with some specific features, then that should be talked about rather than trying to twist an existing well-defined term to mean something it doesn’t.
@50gens please stop trying to argue about the meanings of words. In Thrive we will go with whatever Wikipedia gives as the definition (or a well known dictionary like Cambridge or what that other big one was I can’t remember right now). And the definitions of terms are not up for debate. You can get back to us if you get Wikipedia to change their page’s definition of fascism.