Here are a few grammar things we have to decide:
Do we place adjectives ahead or behind nouns?
Big box v. Box big
Do we mark definite/indefinite nouns?
a car v. car & the car v. car
There are more but I can’t come up with anything else rn
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Adjective placement
- Adjective Noun (I.e. big box)
- Noun Adjective (I.e. box big)
0 voters
Definite/Indefinite Noun Marking
- Yes
- No
0 voters
Results:
Adjective placement: both ways (2 people voted on both)
Definite/Indefinite Noun Marking: definite/indefinite nouns are going to be marked
Resulting Grammatical Features:
Free Adjective Placement (may require further discussion in the future)
Definite/Indefinite Noun Marking
We should decide upon other grammatical features.
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Sorry for my absence, I haven’t had power these last few days.
For the adjectives going both ahead and behind, it could be done so that certain adjectives go in front, while different kinds go behind.
Here is a preliminary split.
Front: adjective clauses, a/the
Back: everything else
Ian?
I think it’s a good idea.
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I think we are at the point where we can start to make words. The two main things I want to deal with are our pronouns and the particle system for marking nouns and verbs.
Our options for pronouns. Note that we probably won’t distinguish between all of these, and may distinguish between something not here. This is just the preliminary table.
| 1st Person | 2nd Person | 3rd Person | 1st Plural | 2nd Plural | 3rd Plural | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Male | ||||||
| Female | ||||||
| Unknown | ||||||
| Neither | ||||||
| Nonhuman | ||||||
| Inanimate |
Table for noun marking. Again note this is just preliminary, we could mark for different locativities, like in between, etc.
| Indefinite Singular | Indefinite Plural | Definite Singular | Definite Plural | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Regular | ||||
| At | ||||
| Near | ||||
| Far | ||||
| In | ||||
| Outside |
Table for verb marking. Note again that this is not exhaustive and could and should be modifiedz
| Past Perfect | Past Imperfect | Present | Infinitive | Future Perfect | Future Imperfect | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Regular | ||||||
| Should | ||||||
| Must | ||||||
| Could | ||||||
| Intend | ||||||
| Wont |
Edit: Also, it would be cool if we did some vowel harmony with a and ɑ
On the subject of marking Definiteness, are we just not considering the possibility of only marking one or the other?
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THE ANCIENT ONE IS BACK!!!
The way the poll was constructed, it didn’t allow for wonky marking one or the other. But I am ok with marking both- it’s probably what I would have chosen anyways.
What are the results of the polls? I think it’s important to write it down.
OMB YESS!
This is the protolang’s phonology so far. Ignore the mess with the vowel length, it’s work in progress. Any ideas on how to improve it?
I’ll publish the evolutions’ chart soon.
Edit: this can be easier:
First, what are we going to use the protolang for?
Second, for vowel harmony, how about if ‘i’ is the first vowel, then any following ‘a/ɑ’s become ‘a’ and vice versa for ʊ. Then for ə, if it is preceded by an ‘i’ it is silent. I don’t know much about vowel harmony, so if this isn’t at all like what vowel harmony is, let me know.
Ex:
fulɑsa → fulɑsɑ
Kipɑzula → kipazulɑ
Kʊnə → Kʊnə
θraɪ̯və → θraɪ̯v
Edit: I have updated the doc with some tables and the grammar we have added. I also updated the phonotactics. We now have to decide what to put in those tables.
Also @Nie, the protolang is comment only- not sure if thats intentional or not.
Sorry of inactivity, I was focusing on other stuff.
I’m not sure what that means.
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Yeah, my wording wasnt clear. It means that for the protolang document, only you can edit , everybody else can only comment on it.
It was intentional, so I can edit it and other people can give me feedback on my ideas.
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How do we want to address the pronouns and the marking words for nouns and verbs? Do we want it to be regular, semi regular, irregular?
Yes this is an attempt to keep this thread alive.
do we have a dictionary sorry im new
As of now we are working on pronouns. Here is the empty chart:
| 1st Person | 2nd Person | 3rd Person | 1st Plural | 2nd Plural | 3rd Plural | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Male | ||||||
| Female | ||||||
| Unknown | ||||||
| Neither | ||||||
| Nonhuman | ||||||
| Inanimate |
interesting how there are a lot more than english has. which pronoun do we have for groups?
Like plurals? if you scroll to the right on the table I’m pretty sure it will show them.
We don’t.
For pronouns maybe we could expand off of English in someway. english seems to go by the Consonant (our case is “H”) and a vowel (again in English it’s “E”" and that pretty much strechess they entiere pronoun list (he, she, it[exception to the rule] tHEy, tHEm)
(by the way the way thank you for using revivify on this project
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