New cell organelles, weapons, and defenses


(Steve) #21

If it is plausible it’s possible on another planet in my eyes.
If it isn’t possible maybe it could be a repulsion field where it slowly hurts cells and/or bacteria within a certain radius and makes them move away from you. This could go under defense instead of weapons since the damage would be minimal. Maybe if two cells both have this they negate each other and can attack each other or cells could evolve a way to ignore the electricity.


#22

I don’t have anything to back this up but I would guess that a single cell has no way to generate enough current to actually affect anything. Electric eels have pretty large electric organs.


(Steve) #23

This cell organelle would only need to be powerful enough to have an effect on cells and bacteria. Even minor stimuli might scare off a cell.


(Steve) #24

There could be an enzyme or small organelle that could be attached to the side of the cell wall/membrane. This would detach and collect compounds (maybe used as a fighter by attacking other cells). It would then return and the compounds it collects would be transferred to the cell.


(Steve) #25

Maybe there could be a tentacle-like weapon that would inject toxins into the target cell. If there is an evolution tree for cell parts, this could be evolved from a cilia or flagella.


(Steve) #26

Alright let’s bring this back, I have the idea for a water jet like structure. There would be 2 openings, one sucks in and the other projects the water. This would be used to either push hostile cells away or as a way to propel the cell.


(𝒦𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝑜𝒻 𝒯𝒽𝒾𝓃𝑔𝓈) #27

AKA the Jet part that you can get in Spore’s Cell Stage.


(Steve) #28

Actually no, there is no outside attachments only the 2 openings in the cell. It’s a long tube that runs through the cell.


(He who abuses the search function) #29

If fluid physics are added I don’t see why you couldn’t Macgyver it and just make a hole through your cell and fill it with cilia, like the stentor in the TOTW from a while back


(𝒦𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝑜𝒻 𝒯𝒽𝒾𝓃𝑔𝓈) #30

I think some paramecium actually use cilia to help get food in their mouth, so thats a neat idea.


(tjwhale) #31

There are bacteria that have jets they can use somewhat like this.


(Steve) #32

Having a bunch of smaller tubes instead of one long tube makes a lot of sense, you can fire the water at higher pressures. I’m also thinking that the cell has an organelle that converts chemical energy into thermal energy and heat the water as it travels through. This would weaponize the stream.


(𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐆𝐨𝐝 𝐄𝐦𝐩𝐞𝐫𝐨𝐫 𝐨𝐟 𝐒𝐞𝐚𝐟𝐨𝐨𝐝) #33

I bet that no matter what anyone says, it will have already existed in some way or another XD


(Steve) #34

Really, a lot of my good natural weapon and defense ideas will come when we get to multicellular and aware stage.

Now, I don’t know if these organelles are planned or are possible in nature although I think they are. I have the idea for 2 new organelles which I have mentioned in previous posts.
1. A chemical energy to thermal energy organelle. This would be used to warm the cell and allow it to exist in colder environments. Another use if for that water jet stream that I other earlier.
2. A chemical energy to electricity organelle. This would be used to stimulate other cells into leaving the area around you or provoking them to attack (depending on how they have evolved).

These organelles could be used for a lot when designing cells for multicellular and creature structure in aware. The chemical to thermal organelle could be used to make extremely hot points for various reasons (ice worm from subnautica popped in mind). The chemical to electricity is for more obvious reasons; making a creature that uses electricity like our electric eels.

Of course all of these require large amounts of your creatures’ energy to use so making creature with lethal electric shocks or heat that would cook a creature alive would most likely kill itself due to using all of it’s energy. But that’s just my overview of how I see these working.