Silicon based life


(𝑻𝒉𝒆 π‘±π’π’π’π’š π‘¬π’Žπ’‘π’†π’“π’π’“ 𝒐𝒇 𝑺𝒆𝒂𝒇𝒐𝒐𝒅) #41

with that logic one could ask why turtles are still a thing


(The Collector Of Useless Information) #42

But everything isnt a turtle
if everything was a turtle predator will evolve bone crushing mouths
everything cant have armor if all have it predators would evolve accordingly.
Like in the carboniferous all had exoskeletons but they weren’t walking tanks predators evolved to crush exoskeleton


(𝑻𝒉𝒆 π‘±π’π’π’π’š π‘¬π’Žπ’‘π’†π’“π’π’“ 𝒐𝒇 𝑺𝒆𝒂𝒇𝒐𝒐𝒅) #43

So with that logic one can argue that because everything has eyes there should be a predator that pokes out eyes
Also because things would evolve bone crushing mouths, the prey would evolve harder shells. Thats how evolution works


(The Collector Of Useless Information) #44

But the eye doesn’t stop them to kill the prey it kinda does but they evolved to creep up to it
That’s the evolutionary arms race and why didn’t predators die in the carboniferous cuz predators do the same to get bigger mouths to crush bigger shell


(𝑻𝒉𝒆 π‘±π’π’π’π’š π‘¬π’Žπ’‘π’†π’“π’π’“ 𝒐𝒇 𝑺𝒆𝒂𝒇𝒐𝒐𝒅) #45

So you are arguing that animals with shells would be useless when defending themselves, yet the act of predation pushes the prey to adapt and evolve to either develop harder shells or other defenses. So no, it would not be the same.


(The Collector Of Useless Information) #46

if every one has the shells yes


(𝑻𝒉𝒆 π‘±π’π’π’π’š π‘¬π’Žπ’‘π’†π’“π’π’“ 𝒐𝒇 𝑺𝒆𝒂𝒇𝒐𝒐𝒅) #47

But it wouldn’t though, because not everyone individual is the same, some either have harder and larger shells, or some have developed other defenses, so metal shells being universal would not render them useless. Also we are describing silicon creatures, so you cannot bring up the carboniferous as an example (the example cannot be LAWKI)


(Steve) #48

I would like to add that sharks and alligators (and probably other things) can break a turtle shell with their jaws.


(OrganismOverlord) #49

Don’t forget Hippos.


(Steve) #50

Yes hippos, the adorable but terrifyingly deadly killing machines that a lot of people underestimate.


(OrganismOverlord) #51

Do not underestimate the Pottamus.


(The Collector Of Useless Information) #52

We aren’t talking about metabolism we are talking about evolution which is similar everywhere
Ok the fish in the Cambrian had the same problem the skin was too thick to pierce and everyone didn’t have the same skin so the predators got the best thing but the prey didn’t evolve thicker skin cuz the predators had the best thing so they opted for something else on earth it is calcium but what can be harder than metal or they used tactics like groups or die young and reproduce young.


(𝑻𝒉𝒆 π‘±π’π’π’π’š π‘¬π’Žπ’‘π’†π’“π’π’“ 𝒐𝒇 𝑺𝒆𝒂𝒇𝒐𝒐𝒅) #53

Im sorry but your logic stinks


(Great_OLAF5) #54

The logic is sound, the presentation sucks.


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