Best Ideas for Microbe Stage Achievements

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

Exactly. maybe there could also be an achievement for completing enough endosymbiosises?

[HyperbolicHadron]

That sounds like it might be one of the most challenging achievements, and I think it would provide a really fun goal. Would it track endosymbiosis across just one game, or all games? That would significantly change the nature of the challenge.

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

I’d imagine it’d track the progress from one achievement only.

[HyperbolicHadron]

Should the achievement be creating an endosymbiote of X different organisms in a single game, or doing X successful endosymbiosys (which would include duplicates)?

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

Probably the former for more challenge.

[hhyyrylainen]

People already complain (probably for good reason) all over the Steam forums that endosymbiosis is very hard to pull off even once. So I’m totally vetoing any achievement that is harder than doing endosymbiosis once from the list of plausible achievements.

[AnthropocenianAge (AnthropocenianAge Arthropleura wants to give you a hug!)]

@hhyyrylainen

People already complain (probably for good reason) all over the Steam forums that endosymbiosis is very hard to pull off even once.

Having a successful endosymbiosis is probably the hardest thing to achieve in the current game. I am not sure why people in the Thrive Suggestions website want organelles to only be available via endosymbiosis, since that would make a large chunk of the game inaccessible for casual players.

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

True. Well then just one successful endosymbiosis should be an achievement already.

[HexapodPhilosopher (Disguised as a rock, until you get too close...)]

My suggestions included a mix of progression, doing interesting things, and trying out varied game features. I think that, plus some harder challenges are good to have for a set of achievements.

@aah31415

Aren’t nematocysts multicell stuff?

“Nematocysts: Accessible only to eukaryotes, these probably will be the closest thing to a pure projectile in Thrive after the toxin rework. Instead of a toxin cloud, nematocysts will essentially be rapidly extendable stingers which get discarded after use and eventually get replenished.”

Comprehensive Combat Revamp

Nematocysts are generally associated with cnidocysts (found in jellyfish), which are multicellular structures. But they are also found in dinoflagellates. There’s apparently some evidence to suggest that cnidocysts may be a result of endosymbiosis.

Nematocyst (dinoflagellate)

They are also creeping towards the top of my to-do list, so may be in the game rather soon.

Best Ideas for Microbe Stage Achievements

How about some from Achievements (See below):

I don’t think we should have achievements for only using one energy source throughout the run, as that often won’t be doable (although I’ve just made changes to iron parts that make them effective throughout the game). And every run starts using only glucose, so technically the other ones wouldn’t be possible. Having a cell move away from using glucose altogether would be quite a big change, so I think it’s worth having an achievement for that, but not requiring going through the entire game to get it.

@aah31415

Could we get an achievement for hosting every organelle and cell part at the same time?

Even I haven’t done that for at least a few releases and I’ve never tried it in normal gameplay…

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

I mean, gathering the organelles shouldn’t be impossible, right?

[HexapodPhilosopher (Disguised as a rock, until you get too close...)]

No. You’d probably need multiple of some of them, but it would be doable.

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

It could be the hardest microbe achievement…

[lady_deaths_head]

@pastebin9L6LKsT0

What percentage of the achievements should be gameplay progress achievements and what percentage should be optional lifestyles? 50-50?

Progress should be lower. At most 3 or so progress achievements per stage, but I think 2 is fine: One for the beginning of the stage, and one for the middle. Or one for the middle and one for the end, it’s the same thing

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

That’s what we agreed upon.
Could there be an achievement for visiting every patch in your world?

[hhyyrylainen]

I think that would be more tedious than exciting. I could see an achievement about visiting all the primary patch types in a single playthrough.

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

And patches like banana biome would belong in the “non-primary”, right?

[hhyyrylainen]

Exactly because otherwise the achievement would be very unreasonable to get. And basically require cheating by pre-checking map seeds before deciding to play any of them as otherwise you might need to play like 50 games, all perfectly to eventually get lucky with a map where there happened to be the banana biome.

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

I can assume at some point after microbe stage is complete we might get new microbe patches like freshwater. Would amongst these new patches perhaps be some considered too hard for such a “visit-all-patch-types” achievement?