Ideas for the Society Stage [Put your ideas in this thread]

Future Game Society Stage
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I think if there’s no other nation like yours it should just be game over but the idea of controlling your people still would be interesting but on the other hand it could be overpowered since it just means you basically have infinite tries to restart from scratch so long as your people aren’t genocided

Perhaps you can only control groups of people led by leaders of your former civilisation like let’s say your civilisation was the Hydrothermical Empire led by his highness Emperor Primum Thrivium. And while Emperor Thrivium was in power he assigned three of his most loyal generals to lead the 3 major provinces of his Empire let’s name one of them General Glucose who was assigned to control the province of Provincia. While you were controlling the Hydrothermical Empire, General Glucose was about as important as a leader is in Stellaris or Hoi4; he had some positive stat bonuses and negatives and you assigned him because Sporum could use it to boost its production however his loyalty stat was pretty high too and only got higher as time went on with your successful Empire
but sometime after the death of Emperor Thrivium your Empire starts collapsing after facing similar problems to Rome until you are completely unable to control your Civ
At which point control would be transferred to General Glucose and his province, he is now the new leader of your civ which would technically be the nation of Provincia though unlike with the earlier example of taking control of another civ that was heavily culturally influenced you can easily rename it to Hydrothermia since General Glucose has a direct line of succession to it
In the event that Provincia also falls but General Glucose lives you can have him lead your people but your control level would pretty much have to be taken back to early tribal Society stage and you’d have to either find new land to settle and start from scratch or seek refuge in another nation which would effectively leave you absorbed by them for a while

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What if your sapient species is some sort of a swarm with no outstanding individuals?

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its a bad idea.
how much “less control”? who wants that?
and why any control? can you control other civs if you still have your own civ, and they were influenced by your culture?

playing as another civ feels like cheating. there is a roman empire, you were carthage and you lost? no worries, just choose rome and play as that. you don’t need to… build rome to play as rome. thats perfectly normal.

i think when you lose at society stage, you should start at the previous stage in the same world. play as nomads, so that you can make a new civ somewhere else. but the discovery of gunpowder or something else can softlock the game.

if you play as a nation rather than a state. all the foreign nationals living in your country would be a fifth column. you could influence other countries and lobby them and if you have a diaspora there

the game should start as playing as a tribe, because before cities, you were just a tribe moving around. once you get a city. you can either be defined by your city, you have to maintain some control over some cities in order to continue the same game, or you can be defined by those who have a certain language, religion(in the case of iran), job (in india?) or ideology (soviets and cuba same country or allies?)

athens was deserted when the persians went there. when they defeated the persians, they went back and rebuiled the city. so, is the athens that was founded in the bronze age the same country as the athens that joined the macedonian empire? this is the same as the poland, except way shorter.

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Athens in both ages was inhabited by roughly the same ethnicity of people, so it should still count as a part of the “greek civ” even after so many rebuilds.

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there can be a “ethnos building” mechanic in the game. if you can increase the “class consciousness”, you can start controlling a particular class. if you increase the “race consciousness”, you control one of the skin colors

who wants to have a racial global conquest game

should i report myself for saying such a thing

city centric game is better. but it doesn’t allow for continuity after being invaded
maybe you can stil control your remaining units when you lose all your cities, but you wouldn’t control the people in the cities. they would be symphetetic to whoevers in charge
or maybe you would still own your culture and they would want to be ruled by their old culture. and religion would be a type of culture

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Maybe if your “citizens” succeed in escaping the destruction of your city, you could continue as a late awakened creature and try to build a new social center somewhere else or retake your old one back?

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Fixed

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That’d have to be early society stage. Also’d downgrade to awakening, not aware.

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If you need a social center to be social, and you loss your social center, are you still social?

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Maybe you’re “pre-social but with the prerequisites to become social again” then?

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In “The Science of Culture”, Leislie White writes that one the fundamental driving forces behind technological progress, and thus sociological and ideological developments too, is the extraction of energy (think about how the industrial revolution started in England because they had access to large quantities of coal) .

So in Thrive, energy could be the most important resource for a society to produce, this would also work as a prelude to the fact that the player will have to produce a massive amount of energy in order to ascend. So energy should be the main incentive behind expansion and innovation; I don’t have any concrete ideas right now, but I might come up with or find something interesting later.

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Additionally, over the ages they have also ridden the island of most forests, too forcing them to dwell for heat sources underground, where new techniques could be tested, like steam power…

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An idea: firearm tech in the medieval substage.
The reason: guns received some use as early as the 1300s, and gunpowder was invented in the 800s ad by China, so it clearly has some level of history beyond the industrial era.

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Also I guess cannons would too belong in society.

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Duh.
I mean, cannons are just heavy guns with bigger bullets.

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Do they count as firearms though?

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