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[AnthropocenianAge (𝒜𝓇𝓉𝒽𝓇𝑜𝓅𝓁𝑒𝓊𝓇𝒶 𝓌𝒶𝓃𝓉𝓈 𝓉𝑜 𝑔𝒾𝓋𝑒 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒶 𝒽𝓊𝑔!)]

Unless its spores survive and get spread out.

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

Would it have to be an asexual repro creature or would it need to mate BEFORE exploding?

[AnthropocenianAge (𝒜𝓇𝓉𝒽𝓇𝑜𝓅𝓁𝑒𝓊𝓇𝒶 𝓌𝒶𝓃𝓉𝓈 𝓉𝑜 𝑔𝒾𝓋𝑒 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒶 𝒽𝓊𝑔!)]

It would interesting if those options do end up being available for an “explosive” creature.

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

I think only if the developers show real interest in this field…

[Oncpapa]

Well there are exploding ants:

Colobopsis explodens

Ants have an advantage in suicide-bombing in that workers don’t reproduce, so they’re expendable.

Same logic as bees dying from using their stinger.

Though, in this case, the real deadly part is the poison, not the explosion itself.

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

I wonder if a species could develop nitroglicerin to help with the explosive power…

[Flagella (King of America and leader of Flagella Co. and FUSA)]

If you evolved a hive, would you be the queen and control the entire hive, or the worker?

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

Maybe you’d be the entire hive?

[Poodelicus (Crazy, Curious, and Stubborn)]

I personally hope that you can switch back and forth,. something like this: .

@Poodelicus

First: After a creature lays/fertilizes eggs, it would continue playing as normal until such time as the egg hatches/the child is birthed. Then, it gets the option to either enter the editor or keep playing as the adult of what it was, potentially having more children, and possibly racking up some kind of other bonus, at the risk of potentially getting itself killed before the next time it can go to the editor. If it dies with children it chose not to become, then the player could just play as the youngest child of their creature, unedited, and having lost whatever bonus it was building up by waiting to enter the editor, but with no other penalty. If the creature dies without having children, the player would suffer the same penalties they currently do.

Second, after leaving the editor, the player would be a baby version of their new creature, but the creature would be in an “Immature Window”, during which 2 different special mechanics would come into play.

One: During this time, if a child from that brood and one of it’s parents touched, they could switch places. If their are multiple children in the brood, the layer could go from child to parent to different child back to parent back to whichever child. If both parents were raising the child, the player could switch between child and either parent.

In all of these combinations, it would require “a parent and a child from that brood to touch”. This means, if the player is playing the parent and goes in search of food and the baby comes under attack, the player could not automatically switch back to the baby because they need to be in close proximity to do so. Also, if the parent is a type that doesn’t stick around, the player could not switch out of the baby. If the player dies while playing the parent, they would transfer to the last child they controlled.

Two: In addition to the parent/baby switch mechanic, there could also be a move to sibling on death mechanic. This would come in handy for both litter K types and for all r types.

For K types: If the player and their siblings are waiting at home for their parent/s to bring food home and come under attack, and they run different directions and the enemy chases and catches the player, or if the player controlled baby wanders to far from safety and gets killed, in either event, if they are still within their “immature Window”, they could just move into one of their siblings with no penalty.

For r types: This would be even more important. If the player were a turtle like creature that lays hundreds of eggs and abandons them, when they all hatched, as long as you still have living siblings, you could have dozens of attempts to reach the ocean, and even afterwards, while you are still within the “Immature Window”, could keep getting moved from living sibling to living sibling without penalty as long as there is at least 1 still alive.

Both of these mechanics would stop be turned off upon reaching what is defined as maturity, at which point death would have its normal penalties.

However, an altered system would be needed to enjoy Eusociality to the fullest.

My suggestion on that regard is as follows:
First: The player could switch between their colonies Queen and all of her children by touch, regardless of age and without needing to stay Parent to Child, as well as return to the Queen at any time. For example: The player could move from the Queen to an adult Drone, from the Drone to a Worker, from the Worker to a different Worker, all by touch, and from that Worker back to the Queen without needing to touch.

Second, if the player died while playing a creature other than the Queen, they would be transferred into a nearby still living member of that caste. For example, if the player was currently a Worker and the tunnel they were in collapsed, they would become a nearby worker who was outside of the collapse who could try to help rescue other workers who are hurt but may yet be saved. If they were playing a Soldier and died in battle, they would become another nearby Soldier who could try to finish off the opponent that killed the players previous Soldier.

Third: In order to enter the editor, the player would have to hatch/raise a new Queen. At this point, the original switch between parent and child by touch rules during “Immaturity Window” would apply, and when the new Queen was old enough, the player would be locked into her and her future children. This last rule would effectively mean that each time the player evolved it would need to build a new colony, however, given the many benefits of eusociality:

• Having an effective hybrid r/K system
• Having multiple distinct and specialized adult forms
• Playing as an army that can build a base 2 stages early
• The potential later benefits that Castes would have when entering the Civ stage later
• The fact that Eusocial creatures are the only know stage 3 creatures that are capable of growing crops and/or raising livestock

. . . perhaps having to make a new colony/base each time you evolve would be fair compensation. Or perhaps not. A little boredom for a lot of perks.

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

That might depend on how greatly are some devs/designers invested into the hive(-ish) species

[Poodelicus (Crazy, Curious, and Stubborn)]

I suspect Hive/Eusocial will be a later feature on the list of Aware stage additions, but they should get added eventually, and I still think this suggestion would cover a lot of bases for K type, r type, and Eusocial playability.

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

If castes and life stages do get done in the same system adding hives/eusocials shouldn’t be too hard

[Poodelicus (Crazy, Curious, and Stubborn)]

@aah31415

@AnthropocenianAge

I wonder if the update after 1.2 will skip some numbering?

Quite possibly for the roadmap items but it’ll still likely be called 1.3

Looks like we are 1 item away from being 1.7. Wow, that went quickly. I really hope that means more bonus features.

Release Roadmap

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

What will adding a nerve cell give back in multicellular?

[AnthropocenianAge (𝒜𝓇𝓉𝒽𝓇𝑜𝓅𝓁𝑒𝓊𝓇𝒶 𝓌𝒶𝓃𝓉𝓈 𝓉𝑜 𝑔𝒾𝓋𝑒 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒶 𝒽𝓊𝑔!)]

Maybe a bonus to communication, movement, and/or other cells types next to such nerve cell?

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

I guess so. Also required to be aware later on

[Rathalos]

@AnthropocenianAge

To clarify, is this a new Custom Difficulty option that is on by default on Normal and lower difficulties?

Yes, exactly this.

@aah31415

I presume we’ve now entered a phase of polish before the 1.2.0 releases on the 29th?

New features are still being added!

@Mr.Pukilar

man i love the bioluminescent vacuole, also it would make sense to add it to the aware stage, since fireflies do attract males by glowing

My personal hope is that we can make every cell attribute, including organelles, of the Microbe/Multicellular Stage translate to something in Macroscopic.

@aah31415

What will adding a nerve cell give back in multicellular?

When previously discussed, it’s been about boosting other cells, especially muscle cells.

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

Speaking of muscle cells, would their return have them now actually provide a speed upgrade in multicellular?

[Rathalos]

Yes, in addition to rotation speed. You can see the work in progress here: Added actomyosin organelle for multicellular by hhyyrylainen · Pull Request #7136 · Revolutionary-Games/Thrive · GitHub

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

What will one need to unlock it?