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Would Actomyosin only be available for cells with engulfable membranes?

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I believe so though it was said that plants and other hard-membraned will have a sort of an equivalent

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I look forward to that equivalent being added.

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

What would you want to use it for? Surely nothing to do with intelligent stuff… right?

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It is meant for greater movement, just like with Actomyosin fibers.

“Sessile” organism are going to be crazy with these new additions.

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So for instance so that flytraps and stuff are possible?

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Hopefully, we can make them, or they evolve in the game.

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They are somewhat on the side so I would not be all sure that the devs’d include them

[Rathalos]

@aah31415

What will one need to unlock it?

Currently, it’s just: Multicellular + speed under some amount.

@AnthropocenianAge

Would Actomyosin only be available for cells with engulfable membranes?

It is currently indeed set to that.

@aah31415

I believe so though it was said that plants and other hard-membraned will have a sort of an equivalent

This is indeed the “plan” though not on the roadmap. I think after Actomyosin is fully implemented, as long as I can rope another volunteer into making a model, it would not be too difficult to get the hydraulic vacuole in.

@aah31415

So for instance so that flytraps and stuff are possible?

This is indeed where these IRL are used. Definitely on the “like to have” list, but as said:

@aah31415

They are somewhat on the side so I would not be all sure that the devs’d include them

No promises!

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Would hydraulic vacuole be used to gain a speed boost, or would it rather be used to increase turning speed and later on the ability to move the individual bodyparts of a rigid organism, but not the whole organism itself?

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@aah31415

increase turning speed and later on the ability to move the individual bodyparts of a rigid organism

Well, based on this, if enough rigid body parts are moved, it could be possible to have a rigid organism to “move”.

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Well it’d be a whole lot less efficient than having fluid membranes and myofibrils instead

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Imagine you are an animal-like organism coning onto land. Only to find out all the plants can move…

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You could still most likely catch up to them

[Rathalos]

@aah31415

Would hydraulic vacuole be used to gain a speed boost, or would it rather be used to increase turning speed and later on the ability to move the individual bodyparts of a rigid organism, but not the whole organism itself?

The latest design was here: Multicellular Parts - #5 by Rathalos - Gameplay - Thrive Development Forum

A cell expanding can have similar effects to cells expanding when you look at the shape of the whole organism. And the movement and turning speed effects in Multicellular are supposed to represent the way for example a worm moves. With the way Actomyosin currently works, it would be a slower, but more energy-efficient version.

@AnthropocenianAge

Imagine you are an animal-like organism coning onto land. Only to find out all the plants can move…

Or indeed a world where the animal-like organisms are plant-like in movement.

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Btw would hydraulic vacuole also be available to fluid membraned cells?

[Rathalos]

It’s intended not to be, as a point of separation between the two categories of cell membranes.

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I presume you still couldn’t get whole plants to move with this since the roots need to stay rooted right?

[Rathalos]

This is more of a question of organism architecture than the cellular mechanism. A Normal membrane species that has roots can’t walk away even if it has muscles. Same way that an “animal” species with Cellulose walls and this vacuole, without roots, could.

You can imagine this as simply an alternative mechanism to muscle. It’s so that there are more different ways you can go in evolution.

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But there are only so many ways you can go with evolution…