The Disturbance: Underwater, or Surface Creature?

[The_confused_protist]

@willow

what about inside mechanical help, or inside chemical help that’s of artificial origin?

If a completely natural born member of species can not survive in its specified environment comfortably, the developing civilization will not be of that environment and therefore will not be a civilization of that type. If adding water everywhere in civilian spaces is not a completely logical no brain decision, then it is not an amphibious civ, nor a naturally born underwater civilization, it’s just an above ground/underground civilization that happens to be underwater.

If a species edited their biology to comfortably live in conditions different to their naturally born state, though, I think it would only count as underwater/amphibious/land, etc. if they built their whole culture around it and built it from the ground up with that in mind, or is forced to adapt to those conditions.

@willow

what if a species breathes with its digestive tract, but gets its oxygen from photosynthesis, and stores several hours, maybe even days, of iron in a specialized form of hemoglobin that acts like it does in sickle cell patients, that’s only located in the bones?

If this is about metal working, may I refer you to this thread The Holy Grail:… from what I gather we already figured out how to smelt metal we just need a way to work on it underwater. My idea was to have them work on it in air bubbles but that has its own issues, like breathing, temperature, the type of fish and the level they’re working on it at, to name a few, but I’m making progress.

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

I think we should go back from the UC track before hhyyrylainen closes this topic.

[hhyyrylainen]

Yeah I was already considering it reading the new posts today. You are all on thin ice.

[willow (they/her or yours are was/were)]

it’s not about metalworking, i accidentally put iron instead of oxygen. the oxygen is for existing obviously

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

Are the rumours about disturbance having ascended powers true?

[fralegend015 (Shroudmaster)]

Yes, the ascended powers are the reason it has underwater metallurgy.

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

Should we add “underwater metallurgy” to ascension perks list?

[Nie ([ɲɛ] | 🇵🇱 | depression sucks, ocd sucks, and I have switched from medikinet to atenza :D)]

Alright, here’s my opinion:

Disturbance lives on land.

My reason for this assertion is as follows:
In the picture, near the Disturbance’s feet, there are visible reflections, which, imo, are caused by water. I don’t know of any substances that could produce an effect quite like the one in the picture while being underwater. As for the bubble-like shapes, they can be easily accounted for with out-of-focus dust particles being lit up by sunlight.

img1 - closeup onto the area with reflections:

img2 - example of out-of-focus dust particles producing bubble-like shapes similar to what’s visible in the picture:

[aah31415 (The maker of SitF, Radiostrocity, The Lifenote and TGBing; The Second Ascended...; And just maybe a security warning come alive...?)]

Maybe disturbance really was made to disturb our minds when trying to see wherever it’s a land creature or an underwater one.