Iceburg for thrive 2#

[titus_the_human (majin)]

i have a post you can edit so id recomend you add all that stuff to my post

[tabat (hhyyrylainen cultist. Waiting for ping from someone.)]

I also recommend that you add hhyyrylainen cult, (Revolutionary cult) to your iceberg.

Also, add “Devbuild Black Market”

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@tabat

Devbuild Black Market

Huhh??? There is something like this???

[hhyyrylainen]

I have not seen such a thing, if it even exists.

[Trappist-1e ("shot for the moon, and if you miss, you get on sun orbit lol")]

So yeah i did it

[zenzonegaming (Steve Buscemi Fish Clown Detective Cult Leader)]

Is it time for an updated version?

[Trappist-1e ("shot for the moon, and if you miss, you get on sun orbit lol")]

I already did it

[doomlightning (The Invisible Aztec Dodo Overgod of Thrive and everything else. Semi-professor of botany and avid plant abuser.)]

ha yes, doomlighting, my alter ego of myself

[Lipovomit (A lone Slugcat who lost their family.)]

What does autoevo going to far mean?

[willow (they/her or yours are was/were)]

autoevo monsters

[Lipovomit (A lone Slugcat who lost their family.)]

W-what does THAT mean? Unholy eldritch bacteria?

[50gens]

The mystery of the purple bacteria

@miss-sagemoon

I want to add on that one thing 0.5.9 did that made the start seem more natural was having other species exist along side you when the game begins.

@hhyyrylainen

But other species don’t exist at the start?

@miss-sagemoon

I never got a screenshot, but I ran into a purple cell before the first editor. I don’t entirely remember if I tweaked the mutation rate, so maybe that has something to do with it.

@hhyyrylainen

It should not be possible at all, no other species are added to the world before you get to the editor

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“TheForumGameMasters AI clones” should also be on the iceberg.

[fralegend015 (Shroudmaster)]

and the horrible treatment he does to them (considering that they are supposed to represent real people)

[TheForumGameMaster (14M e/acc)]

How deep would that be on the iceberg, and how deep would the grueling control I attempt to exert over the AI be?

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Okay, so, “TheForumGameMasters abused AI clones”
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@TheForumGameMaster

how deep would the grueling control I attempt to exert over the AI be?

Unfortunately, I’m not sure how to interpret this question. Would the ‘grueling control’ be on the its own entry, or are you asking about the degree to which you yourself would try to control the AI clones?

[TheForumGameMaster (14M e/acc)]

Yes, try not to use the word “abuse” because that makes it sound like a crime. And controlling AIs is not illegal. The grueling control would be part of the same thing.

[hhyyrylainen]

Treating something that acts like a human sets pretty bad precident in your mind even if you consciously try to not get into the habit of treating actual people badly. At least that’s the most relevant argument about AI I’ve heard regarding this discussion.

[HexapodPhilosopher (Disguised as a rock, until you get too close...)]

True, but the same is said of treating AI characters in a game badly. And there seems to be no consensus from psychologists about whether that is harmful. There’s no evidence that playing a violent game makes someone more violent, and many psychologists believe that it can be cathartic, and even relieve a person’s animosity towards others, which could otherwise manifest in harmful ways.

There’s also no consensus from ethicists about whether it’s an extension of how we treat other people, either. These issues don’t really seem to be swung by how realistic the characterisation is, but they certainly are affected by how likely someone is to start to believe it’s a real person on the other end. If the characters are ones you’ve created for yourself, you aren’t likely to fall into that illusion.

[willow (they/her or yours are was/were)]

i feel like the reason it isn’t harmful to your ability to treat people well to treat video game characters badly is because: 1: they’re behind a screen, and 2: they have a limited amount of possible replies. once those are fixed that will change fast