Intermediates (Now Open) | Evo Game

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I was thinking of making a Forum Game similar to Nick’s Auto-Evo Algorithm Forum Game, but using a modified version of My Guidelines for playing like the AI! I first want to get experience with playing a Forum Game to get a better of understanding of how these work. I will most definitely need help with this, either way…

Tentative ideas based on the discussion so far:

Premise
From the soundless death of Stars came the symphonic birth of Elements. From the chorus birth of Elements came the calm cradle of Planets. From the paradise of Planets came the ineffable iota of molecular precursors. Now we proceed with the process of progress to witness the peregrination of lipid encapsulated enzymes. Your job is to help this fascinating phenomena flourish through it intermediates. Or will the litany of life be lost, rung as another rock in the rough? (No AI used; I just felt like using alliteration when typing this).

Rules

Still in progress.

Tentative Rules:
Please see Intermediates (Now Open) | Evo Game - #7 by AnthropocenianAge.

Players will test out the “Fitness” of their chosen intermediate by attempting to survive and reproduce each generation. If Players and AI survive or “win” a potential conflict, they gain +100 population; if they die, or “lose” a potential conflict, they lose -60 population. This population rule might change later on.

Conflict is defined as an event where two or more organisms meet. This can be between AI Players, AI and human Players, and two human Players. There is a possibility of resolving conflicts peacefully, which will give a +100 to each respective population. Other types of events may include Meteors, Anoxic Events, and Underwater Vent Eruptions.

Also, like Kakhitt | Evo Game, you can name your organism. The nomenclature would be as follow: Genus species subspecies ecotype mutant. When your organism is mutated, you must change the name accordingly and choose which descendant you will play as.

Additionally, you can choose the theme song of your organism, if you feel inclined to do so.

If an organism is descended from a non-AI Player, then that particular Player will name the all the resultant mutants/ecotype/subspecies/species from their previous turn. If it is an AI Player, then all who are Players will decide on the names of the resultant descendants of the AI organisms.

Since implementation of niches, each defined species will occupy an individual niche, or specific area of environmental specialization. For this FG, additional Niches have been implemented, as seen in Intermediates (Now Open) | Evo Game - #813 by AnthropocenianAge. One additional behavior has also been added, Cannibalism, which allows an organism to prey on their own species.

Players (This is to help me keep track of AI vs. Non-AI players)

List of Players
  1. Non-AI Players

JustaDumbThriver

Revivalis iterum (Ecotype 114)

Generation: IIII

Population: 1T

Color: #fffff6; RGB: 255,255,246

Behavior:

Aggression: 375, Opportunism: 135, Fear: 100, Activity: 100, Focus: 100, Cannibalism: 0

Membrane Type: Double, Membrane Rigidity: 0

Base Speed: 0.312, Base Rotation Speed: 0.790, Base Hex Size: 0.5

Organelles: Hydrogenase

Organelle Reproduction Order: 1) Hydrogenase (1,-2)

Organelle Position: 1) (1,-2)

Organelles Rotation Position: 1) 1

Temperature Tolerance Range: 8 C – 28 C

Temperature Tolerance Flexibility: Standard (10 C)

Pressure Tolerance Range: 750 kPa – 1100 kPa

Pressure Tolerance Flexibility: Standard (350 kPa)

Oxygen Resistance: 0% (-3%)

UV Resistance: 100%

P/A: 130 Pixels/226 Square Pixels = 0.575

aah31415

Difons Blackberry (Ecotype 115)

Generation: IIII

Population: 1T

Color: #fffff6; RGB: 255,255,246

Behavior:

Aggression: 100, Opportunism: 135, Fear: 100, Activity: 100, Focus: 100, Cannibalism: 0

Membrane Type: Double, Membrane Rigidity: 0

Base Speed: 0.214, Base Rotation Speed: 0.738, Base Hex Size: 1.0

Organelles: Hydrogenase, Rusticyanin

Organelle Reproduction Order: 1) Hydrogenase (1,-2), 2) Rusticyanin (0,-1)

Organelle Position: 1) (1,-2), 2) (0,-1)

Organelles Rotation Position: 1) 1, 2) 1

Temperature Tolerance Range: 8 C – 28 C

Temperature Tolerance Flexibility: Standard (10 C)

Pressure Tolerance Range: 750 kPa – 1100 kPa

Pressure Tolerance Flexibility: Standard (350 kPa)

Oxygen Resistance: 0% (-3%)

UV Resistance: 100%

P/A: 165 Pixels/452 Square Pixels = 0.365

CatSquared

Chi cysteine (Ecotype 116)

Generation: IIII

Population: 1T

Color: #fffff6; RGB: 255,255,246

Behavior:

Aggression: 100, Opportunism: 135, Fear: 100, Activity: 100, Focus: 100, Cannibalism: 0

Membrane Type: Double, Membrane Rigidity: 0

Base Speed: 0.217, Base Rotation Speed: 0.618, Base Hex Size: 1.0

Organelles: Hydrogenase, Chemosynthesizing Proteins

Organelle Reproduction Order: 1) Hydrogenase (1,-2), 3) Chemosynthesizing Proteins (2,-2)

Organelle Position: 1) (1,-2), 3) (2,-2)

Organelles Rotation Position: 1) 1, 2) 5

Temperature Tolerance Range: 8 C – 28 C

Temperature Tolerance Flexibility: Standard (10 C)

Pressure Tolerance Range: 750 kPa – 1100 kPa

Pressure Tolerance Flexibility: Standard (350 kPa)

Oxygen Resistance: 0% (-3%)

UV Resistance: 100%

P/A: 162 Pixels/452 Square Pixels = 0.358

Cha

Revivalis strawberry (Mutant 70)

Generation: IIII

Population: 61T

Color: #fffff6; RGB: 255,255,246

Behavior:

Aggression: 100, Opportunism: 135, Fear: 100, Activity: 100, Focus: 100, Cannibalism: 0

Membrane Type: Double, Membrane Rigidity: 0

Base Speed: 0.312, Base Rotation Speed: 0.790, Base Hex Size: 0.5

Organelles: Hydrogenase

Organelle Reproduction Order: 1) Hydrogenase (1,-2)

Organelle Position: 1) (1,-2)

Organelles Rotation Position: 1) 1

Temperature Tolerance Range: 8 C – 28 C

Temperature Tolerance Flexibility: Standard (10 C)

Pressure Tolerance Range: 750 kPa – 1100 kPa

Pressure Tolerance Flexibility: Standard (350 kPa)

Oxygen Resistance: 0% (-3%)

UV Resistance: 100%

P/A: 130 Pixels/226 Square Pixels = 0.575

doomlightning

Chi omega (Ecotype 118)

Generation: IIII

Population: 1T

Color: #fffff6; RGB: 255,255,246

Behavior:

Aggression: 100, Opportunism: 135, Fear: 100, Activity: 100, Focus: 100, Cannibalism: 0

Membrane Type: Double, Membrane Rigidity: 0

Base Speed: 0.183, Base Rotation Speed: 0.434, Base Hex Size: 2.0

Organelles: Cytoplasm, Hydrogenase (x2), Chemosynthesizing Proteins

Organelle Reproduction Order: 1) Cytoplasm (1,-1), 2) Hydrogenase (1,-2), 3) Chemosynthesizing Proteins (2,-2), 4) Hydrogenase (3,-2)

Organelle Position: 1) (1,-1), 2) (1,-2), 3) (2,-2), 4) (3,-2)

Organelles Rotation Position: 1) 1, 2) 1, 3) 5, 4) 5

Temperature Tolerance Range: 8 C – 28 C

Temperature Tolerance Flexibility: Standard (10 C)

Pressure Tolerance Range: 750 kPa – 1100 kPa

Pressure Tolerance Flexibility: Standard (350 kPa)

Oxygen Resistance: 0% (-6%)

UV Resistance: 100%

P/A: 212 Pixels/904 Square Pixels = 0.235

Rocketsgobrrrr (no longer playing)

Parapanspermium (Species 95)

Generation: I

Population: 61T

Color: #fffff; RGB: 255,255,255

Behavior:

Aggression: 100, Opportunism: 100, Fear: 100, Activity: 100, Focus: 100, Cannibalism: 0

Membrane Type: Single, Membrane Rigidity: 0

Base Speed: 0.35, Base Rotation Speed: 0.925, Base Hex Size: 0.5

Organelles: Cytoplasm

Organelle Reproduction Order: 1) Cytoplasm (1,-1)

Organelle Position: 1) (1,-1)

Organelles Rotation Position: 1) 1

Temperature Tolerance Range: 8 C – 28 C

Temperature Tolerance Flexibility: Standard (10 C)

Pressure Tolerance Range: 750 kPa – 1100 kPa

Pressure Tolerance Flexibility: Standard (350 kPa)

Oxygen Resistance: 0%

UV Resistance: 100%

P/A: 130 Pixels/226 Square Pixels = 0.575

Turn 0 Part 1 - The Journey Begins
Turn 0 Part 2
Turn 1 Part 1
Turn 1 Part 2
Turn 2 Part 1
Turn 2 Part 2 - First Cannibalistic Organism
Turn 3 - 0.8.1.1 Rules & soft reset
Turn 4 Part 1 - 100 Million Years, First Player Speciation, & Banana Biome Mysteries
Turn 4 Part 2
Turn 5 Part 1
Options for Turn 5 - Second Player Speciates
Turn 5 Part 2
Turn 6 Part 1
Options for Turn 6 - Third Player Speciates
Turn 6 Part 2
Turn 7 Part 1
Options for Turn 7 - Return of the Melanokoids & Fourth Player Speciates
Turn 7 Part 2
Turn 8 Part 1 - 200 Million Years & Niche Turnovers
Options for Turn 8 - Fifth Player Speciates
Turn 8 Part 2
Turn 9 Part 1
Options for Turn 9 - Sixth Player Speciates
Turn 9 Part 2
Turn 10 Part 1
Options for Turn 10 - Several Players speciate a second time
Turn 10 Part 2
Turn 11 Part 1 - 0.8.2.1 Rules
Options for Turn 11 - Inclusion of P/A and Size niches
Turn 11 Part 2
Turn 12 Part 1 - 300 Million Years, Ph and Salt shock, & Late Heavy Bombardment
Options for Turn 12
Turn 12 Part 2
Turn 13 Part 1 - Recap of the Lost Eon & introduction of Drip Tectonics
Options for Turn 13
Preparations for Phase II
Phase I Clade Diagram
Turn 14 Part 1 - Start of Phase II, Panspermia, & Horizontal Gene Transfer
Turn 14 Part 2
Turn 15 - 0.8.3.0 Rules & Granitic Eruptions
Options for Turn 15 - First New Speciation
Turn 15 Part 2
Turn 16 Part 1
Options for Turn 16 - Return of Bioluminescent Proteins
Turn 16 Part 2
Turn 17 Part 1 - 400 Million Years
Options for Turn 17
Turn 17 Part 2
Turn 18 Part 1 - Putty Tectonics and GM’s Grace from reaching ASCENDED.
Options for Turn 18 - Reaching Phylum Clade
Turn 18 Part 2
Turn 19 Part 1 - Temporary Meteor Immunity

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Will we be able to control our species anyhow?

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I’ll sign up.

Species name: Omniphagus thrivoni

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Not sure if we can sign up yet…

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Yeah, I am still figuring out the rules right now. Especially with testing out a tweaked version of Guide for Playing like the AI. But thanks for signing up anyway, @JustaDumbThriver!

Also, @aah31415, you will be to choose an intermediate/species to control. I am thinking players will have to switch/choose a new intermediate/species each generation, depending on how my modified version of rules for Playing Like the AI change the species. Maybe like the way players control organisms in Kakhitt | Evo Game?

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Oh so the game will give the players some proposals and they will have to select one of them?

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My idea is that I mutate organisms each generation. This will generate intermediates. Unless the Players want to go through the whole process that I outlined in My Guidelins for Playing Like the AI. Players will then choose an intermediate to play as during that generation. The intermediates that are not chosen are AI players that the Players will have to complete against. Both AI and Player intermediates will be mutated each generation. I am thinking of a similar process that I made a flow diagram of earlier with my Guidelines:

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The difference would be, since I don’t know how Auto-Evo fully works in terms of calculations, that Players test out whether the intermediates are “Best Fit”.

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Will our cells have all the stats in-game cells have?

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Yes. I am not sure how the energy calculations will work, or how niches will be included. I may just do a simplified version of the old style of Auto-Evo, where a Player dies, -60 pop, and a Player lives, +100 pop. Unless a dev wants to help me understand the underlying calculations of current Auto-Evo…

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Devs have absolutely no interest in FGs…

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Would you like to have the options of passive reproduction, switching playable species upon extinction, and capping the overall population?

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I have hear u need some consultation in ur FGs u building.

I think that when it comes to FGs, I have some experiment here.
bonus because I am currently on my M.A on life sciences (Plant torture researcher (botanist))

I think it would be wise not to focus too much on someone else’s evolutionary algorithm and instead, focus on using existing information (in my case in the PWH metagame, I used an equation to calculate the carrying capacity of a certain area and I spread some data to fit my game) and engineer it to your needs. You don’t have to make it 100% accurate because that’s literally impossible in writing-type games. The more accurate it is, the more you’re stuck with it if you don’t have external tools (since I have knowledge of Godot and Excel, I built a data source for some of the games where I collect and calculate the information obtained. Today I’m also more Matlab and Python that can help me in the future).

You have the free hand to do what you want with your game at the end of the day and you are the one who controls it :slight_smile:

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Here’s some aid if you need it

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Thank you for the advice! Also, @aah31415, thank you for the additional info!

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No need to thank, dear GM of an another FG.

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How long did it take you to start your first forum game? I am still working out some of things for this one.

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Technically my first FG was the “make names for versions” ““FG”” which was just an idea I had one day
SitF, my more serious attempt at a FG, has already formed in my mind around a month or two before it was first published (the thread-post writing itself didn’t take so long in comparison).

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The Forum Game is now open!
I have decided to just wing it after pondering and working on it for a while, and I will just adjust things as the game goes along.
For those who want to play, please submit the name for your organism. I will randomly create your organism using most of the rules I mentioned above (the link goes to the top of the thread so you don’t have to scroll up).

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For me, it’s Gamblerobacter koinos, or the common gambler’s bacteria.

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Keep in mind you will have to keep on changing the name after it mutates, so don’t be too attached to the name.

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